/dev/ttyS0 should have 660 permissions. I frequently find my /dev/ttyS1 has changed to 640. This can be caused by pppd terminating abnormally, and perhaps by other events. Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <hilliard@flinet.com> |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USA PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org