You can also try lsattr and see if the file has been made immutable. chattr -i will take off this flag. Allen Allen Smith, lazlor@stardust.com IP Multicast. Turn it on and tune-in to the future. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .