The list server will be back up properly in a few hours. It is currnetly running from a backup site, and I think we're going to transition it to operate from Bucknell U. soon. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP Bruce@Pixar.com 510-215-3502 Finger bruce@master.Debian.org for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3