Re: Cannot deliver message, decebal, kovoks, gmx.de en outlook.com
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 04:37:55PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 03:27:43PM +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> >
> > De headers:
> > Received: from EUR01-VE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092066053.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.66.53])
> > by cloud01.kovoks.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AF9C16876
> > for <Cecil@decebal.nl>; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:01:26 +0200 (CEST)
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > From: <postmaster@outlook.com>
>
> outlook.com
>
> > To: <Cecil@decebal.nl>
> > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 12:01:25 +0000
> > In-Reply-To: <[🔎] 87ftwrk39a.fsf@munus.decebal.nl>
> > References: <[🔎] 87ftwrk39a.fsf@munus.decebal.nl>
>
> Die twee komen overeen met de Message-id
> op https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-dutch/2018/10/msg00090.html
>
> > Subject: Undeliverable: Hulp bij het up to date houden van packages
> >
> > gmx.net rejected your message to the following email addresses:
> >
> > tilda32@gmx.de<mailto:tilda32@gmx.de>
> > Your message couldn't be delivered. The error returned by the email server =
> > outside Office 365 suggests that the Internet's directory listing for the r=
> > ecipient's email domain (the text after the "@" symbol in the recipient's e=
> > mail address) doesn't exist or isn't set up correctly. A distinct and corre=
> > ct listing for the recipient's domain must exist to determine where to send=
> > the message. This can only be fixed by the recipient's email admin. To fix=
> > the problem, contact the recipient by some other means (by phone, for exam=
> > ple) and give them the error message below to give to their email admin to =
> > fix.
> >
> > For Email Admins
> > When Office 365 tried to send the message outside of Office 365 the externa=
> > l email server returned the error below. This error was reported by an emai=
> > l server outside Office 365 and it indicates that the Domain Name System (D=
> > NS) mail exchanger (MX) record or A record for the recipient's domain doesn=
> > 't exist or isn't set up correctly. To fix this contact the recipient's ema=
> > il admin and ask them to work with their domain registrar (or Web host prov=
> > ider) to properly set up a correct MX and A record for their domain.
> >
> > Only the recipient's email admin can fix this. Unfortunately, Office 365 su=
> > pport won't be able to help with these kinds of externally reported errors.
> >
> >
> >
> > gmx.net gave this error:
> > Remote server returned invalid or missing DNS MX or A record for recipient =
> > domain -> 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable;invalid DNS M=
> > X or A/AAAA resource record
> >
> >
> >
> > Diagnostic information for administrators:
> >
> > Generating server: VE1EUR01HT197.mail.protection.outlook.com
> >
> > tilda32@gmx.de
> > gmx.net
> > Remote Server returned '550 5.4.350 Remote server returned invalid or missi=
> > ng DNS MX or A record for recipient domain -> 550 Requested action not take=
> > n: mailbox unavailable;invalid DNS MX or A/AAAA resource record'
> >
>
> Ik heb een server waar ik succesvol naar tilda 32 AT gmx de kan mailen.
> En ik heb een andere server, waar dat niet kan.
>
> Ding wat me het meeste verbaast,
> is hoe de mailserver van outlook.com in het spel is gekomen.
>
> Tilda, je hebt een Bcc van dit mailinglist bericht.
>
> Sorry voor het testbericht, ik was dat, vanaf een ander adres.
> Stuur mij a.u.b. een reply op _dit_ bericht.
Die reactie ga ik vanzelf zien.
> Mijn inschatting is overigens dat jou _geen blaam_ treft.
>
>
> En via de mailinglist dadelijk meer.
Heb van een Cecil ML posting en andere ML posting
de headers vergeleken. Echter niets wat wat mij op viel.
@Cecil a.u.b. een "Reply-To-All". Achterliggende idee is
dat ik zo twee berichten krijg. Ze hebben hetzelfde Message-id
het ene bericht is door mailinglist server gegaan en het andere niet.
Ik wil kunnen zien wat de verschillende trajecten
aan verschil in E-mail headers oplevert.
Groeten
Geert Stappers
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