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Bug#1054043: texlive: Texlive updates are too large



Package: texlive
Version: 2023.20230613-3
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

This is not a new problem, but after all these years I figured maybe
I should finally report it: I think updates to Texlive are larger than
they should.  This is probably not completely specific to Texlive but
that's where I see it in the most glaring way since some of its packages
are the largest .deb packages I have.

Let's take the example of `texlive-lang-french`: the last two `.deb`
packages I have for it in /var (I'm tracking Debian testing) are around
80MB each.

But if I use `xdelta` on their respective (uncompressed) `data.tar`
I get an 11MB result, there's a clear potential to reduce the needed
download size by a factor 7x in this case (and potentially disk space).

For the `texlive-fonts-extra` monster, the xdelta is 20MB while the
`.deb` are 500MB, a reduction by a factor 24x.

[ The above two comparisons are between 2022.20230122-4 and
  2023.20230613-2.  ]

Clearly, taking advantage of this will require changes to the Debian
infrastructure, so is outside of the scope of the Texlive team itself,
but I hope you'll know where to redirect this "bug" report.

And in the mean time: thank you for your work, of course,


        Stefan "dreaming of Debian updates as efficient as
                `git fetch` :-)"


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	(pdf)latex -recorder ...
(or any other program that supports -recorder) and send us the generated
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can be found at

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or 

http://www.minimalbeispiel.de/mini.html (german)

##################################
minimal input file


##################################
other files

######################################
 List of ls-R files

-rw-rw-r-- 1 root staff 80 Apr  3  2016 /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 2302 Sep 28 12:24 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Oct 12  2022 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXMFMAIN
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Aug 27 17:39 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEDIST
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Aug 27 17:39 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVEDIST
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80 Apr 14  2014 /usr/share/texlive/texmf/ls-R
######################################
 Config files
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 475 Oct 24  2022 /etc/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Aug 27 17:39 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf -> /var/lib/texmf/fmtutil.cnf-DEBIAN
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 Aug 27 17:39 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg -> /var/lib/texmf/updmap.cfg-DEBIAN
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5047 Sep 22 12:54 /var/lib/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat
######################################
 Files in /etc/texmf/web2c/
total 8
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 Aug 24  2006 mktex.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 475 Oct 24  2022 texmf.cnf
######################################
 md5sums of texmf.d
ca40c66f144b4bafc3e59a2dd32ecb9c  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/00debian.cnf

-- System Information:
Debian Release: trixie/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'stable-security'), (100, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: amd64

Kernel: Linux 6.1.0-7-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_WARN, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE
Locale: LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_CH.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages texlive depends on:
ii  texlive-fonts-recommended  2023.20230613-3
ii  texlive-latex-base         2023.20230613-3
ii  texlive-latex-recommended  2023.20230613-3

texlive recommends no packages.

texlive suggests no packages.

Versions of packages tex-common depends on:
ii  ucf  3.0043+nmu1

Versions of packages tex-common suggests:
ii  debhelper  13.11.6

Versions of packages texlive is related to:
ii  tex-common        6.18
ii  texlive-binaries  2023.20230311.66589-6

-- debconf information:
  tex-common/check_texmf_wrong:
  tex-common/check_texmf_missing:


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