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Bug#153257: marked as done (tetex-bin: License contradictions)

Your message dated Wed, 11 Jul 2012 21:50:36 +0200
with message-id <87txxedqlv.fsf@riesling.miltenberg.kuesterei.ch>
and subject line Re: Bug#153257: TeX Licenses & teTeX
has caused the Debian Bug report #153257,
regarding tetex-bin: License contradictions
to be marked as done.

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Package: tetex-bin
Version: 1.0.7+20011202-7
Severity: normal

The copyright file in tetex-bin has this statement:

  tex.web and mf.web mustn't be edited without changing the name of the

However, the license statements at the top of those files do not give
*any* permission to edit them, regardless of whether the name is changed.
What's up?  Do you have additional permissions that are not stated
in those files?

In addition, the copyright file has this statement:

  The individual parts of this distribution often have their own
  copyright. Please look into the respective files for their copyright.

This is not enough; the full license terms must be in the copyright
file.  (See Debian Policy section 13.6).  Certainly it's a lot of
work to find all the licenses, but
  a) the package maintainer has to do this anyway, to make sure that
     the licenses meet the DFSG, and
  b) it's better if one person does this work once, than that everyone
     who wants to know the license terms has to do it.


Richard Braakman

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Hi everybody,

Hilmar Preusse <hille42@web.de> writes:

> - you're allowed to change tex.web as long as you don't call the
>   final program TeX
>  and
> - the statement in the header of tex.web itself, that one is not
>   allowed to change the file at all.
> As there is the technique to use the .ch files I don't know, if this
> is relevant to us. 

It is irrelevant in particular because the text in the file is much
older than the public letter from DEK. He just didn't change the file to
reflect his putting the code into public domain.

> Anybody mentioned, that there were some
> discussions on debian-legal. Anybody has a clue, what were the
> results of these discussions?

I don't want to search for links, but it is quite clear:  What DEK
intented is to protect the name, which is exactly what our exection in
the DFSG is for.  The code itself is public domain, even if the habit of
using change files has been kept after the letter (and maybe initially
as a result of a misunderstanding).

> Further the submitter complained about:
>   The individual parts of this distribution often have their own
>   copyright. Please look into the respective files for their copyright.
> which is similar to #218105. I guess, as soon as the first part is is
> clarified we should close that bug here and open another one.

Yes, this has been dealt with.  

Regards, Frank

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