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Bug#593706: install-info breaks dpkg



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Hello together,

Am Do den 26. Aug 2010 um 11:51 schrieb Norbert Preining:
> On Do, 26 Aug 2010, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > Aha, if it breaks unrelated software and the whole system it is only
> > normal priority.
> > 
> > Debian quality gets more and more worse in my opinion. To lower high
> > important severities is not helping to hold high quality.
> 
> The move to install-info from GNU was concerted and organized together
> with the dpkg team. Please don't overexaggerate the problem.

Hmmm... I do not know what you mean with "overexaggerate". However, it
might be that that was organized together. But as it is at least broken
in some cases shows that not all cases are addressed.

> Nobody else can reproduce the problme you are having, so it is
> definitely not critical.

That is definitely not true. I got a mail of one people who had the same
problem. However, I cannot find the mail anymore.

> > Aha. You argue a much worse way. If you think that this is rubbish only
> > cause your specific installation work is rubbish (To use your words).
> 
> No, because other people in the thread have told you that they made
> installations without any problems .. so it is unreproducible with
> missing infos .. so it is not critical.

So, if some people see no problem, then it is rubbish for you? If so,
then please notice that some people take themself out of the gene pool
by jumping from a bridge and take your own consequences ...

> > notexisting problem. That is a real problem that is reproducible as I
> > wrote in the bug report.
> 
> Ahhh, really. Then please give a *detailed* report how to reproduce it.

I will if I am asked for nicely. But until now I have been only hostile
to.

> > However, it is understandable that you need more data. So please specify
> > that data and how to collect them.
[more FUD]
> If you are interested in fixing things, don't come wasting our precious
> time by writing bug reports with as much information as oxygen on the moon.

My time is just limited. I fill good bug reports if I am able to do. If
not or if I think the problem is more general then I just fill all
informations I have as I did in that report.

If it is not enough, then just ask politely. With that hate and FUD I
read in the last mails I am not willing to help making debian better at
all.

Concerning other bugs I heared of people who have same problems but was
not willing anymore to write any word with some debian maintainers as
the was also scared of with FUD and hate mails.

I myself did some consequences and fixed some bugs myself without giving
back the patches to the debian community. I do not want to do that with
all bugs as I still think debian maintainer did a nice job. But with
such answers like in that bug report ...

Am Do den 26. Aug 2010 um 13:00 schrieb Julian Gilbey:
> Which other people?

See above.

> > However, it is understandable that you need more data. So please specify
> > that data and how to collect them.
[common practice without use for special problems]
> At the very least, you need to say which hardware you are using, which
> options you selected during the installation, precisely which
> installation media you used (was it from a USB stick, CD, DVD?), which
> version of the installation software you used (which image did you
> download, etc.), and then copy down the *exact* error messages you
> see.

Then ask for It and do not start hating mails to scare of bug reporters!

I will provide the Informations you asked here the next days. Please
give me some time to setup a test bed for it.

> P.S. PLEASE NOTE that I have changed my email address; it is now:
>                       julian@d-and-j.net
> If you have any problems with this email address, please let me know
> on my old address: jdg@polya.uklinux.net

I just reply to the mail. You can set a reply-to: header.

Regards
   Klaus

Ps. I do not want to come down to your slanderous level but this mail
    has one sentence I couldn't resist. Sorry.
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