Re: Debian TeX in Ubuntu

[Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>]

Hi Christian!

On Fre, 12 Jan 2007, Christian Robottom Reis wrote:
> > > I've arranged to have that done now. I think. Please confirm the message
> > > that should have hit the mailing list and it should be all done. There
> > 
> > This is the problem. It seems that these emails never arrive. We already
> > have asked the Debian listmasters for possible problems, but they
> > responded that it doesn't seem to be any problem.
> 
> Okay, I'll check with our sysadmin team. Thanks for bringing this to my
> attention; I'll get back to you.

So now we got the explanation ...

The emails seems to come from bounce@.... and these emails are ignored
from smartlist to prevent mail looping.

There are several bug reports, but the first in the list of the email
attached I found useful was 
	http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=111652
where you can read:
----
The lists at lists.debian.org are managed by SmartList, and it rejects
the "echo" address. In the file rc.submit I see the following:

#
# The following recipe makes sure that:
#       The mail has a sane size (i.e. it is not inordinately big)
#       It does not look like an administrative request.
#       It wasn't sent by this list itself.
#       It wasn't sent by a daemon (misdirected bounce message perhaps).
#

:0
* < $size_limit
* !$^($X_COMMAND:|X-Loop: $\listaddr)
* ! B ?? $^^$X_COMMAND:
* $$daemon_bias
* -100^0 ^FROM_MAILER|\
         ^(((Resent-)?(From|Sender)|X-Envelope-From):|>?From )\
          ([^>]*[^(.%@a-z0-9])?(\
           LIST(SERV|proc)|NETSERV|bounce|autoanswer|echo|mirror\
          )(([^).!:a-z0-9][-_a-z0-9]*)?[%@>      ][^<)]*(\(.*\).*)?)?$([^>]|$)
* 1^0
{
------

in this recipe occurs also
	bounce
so these email go into the waste basket.

Is there *ANY* other way to confirm an email address but this email sent
by the system? Because all these bugs are "won't fix" bugs, listmasters
*want* to have this protection (which I also can understand).

Thanks a lot for any further help and all the best

Norbert

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Dr. Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>                    Università di Siena
Debian Developer <preining@debian.org>                         Debian TeX Group
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