Re: Bug#154179: Please create binary-sh[34] and remove binary-sh
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 00:23, Nobuhiro Iwamatsu<iwamatsu@nigauri.org> wrote:
> Hi, Luca.
>
> 2009/6/20 Luca Bruno <lucab@debian.org>:
>> [Sorry for the long CC: list, I was unsure about subscribers]
>>
>> So, even if this report is quite old, it looks like something is
>> currently moving.
>> This mail is just to ping all interested parties and sum up relevant
>> references.
>>
>> In a recent thread[1], there were initial discussions about first
>> integrating sh4 into debian-ports[2], also to ease a future move into
>> the official archive. Buildd and porters hardware is reported to be
>> available, but it looks to me that the issue is currently related to
>> lack of manpower and people involved.
>>
>> Porters, commenters and SH fans, would you please speak up and
>> coordinate initial setup with Aurelien?
I'm not sure what you mean by "coordinate initial setup", but I am
hereby speaking up as an SH fan and will be contributing English
documentation shortly.
>
> Mr, Yaegashi, Mr, Ishikawa and Mr. Niibe are the first proposers who were
> going to support SH in Debian.
>
> This was performed very before.
> There were sh3/sh4 and two architecture and an endian in those days.
>
> I suggested sh3 + kernel math emuration to support sh3 two years ago.
>
> However, sh3 is still produced now,; but central sh4.
> And the new CPU of sh3 is not developed.
>
> And sh3/sh4 is bi-endian, but most of big-endian is not employed.
> I reopened activity with an aim in supporting little endian of sh4.
>
>>
>> Also, it would be good to have general-use knowledge about this port
>> available on the wiki, as it's already happening with other ports[3][4]
>> [5]. While digging the archive, I found many links to Japan
>> documentations and pages: I think you could try to attract more
>> contributors just providing more plain English docs.
I'm assuming you're referring to www.linux-sh.org. Myself and others
are working to get more English documentation out there.
>
> I made a page of SH4 port.
Is your page different from the link here:
http://debian.org/ports/#unreleased which points back to
www.linux-sh.org?
> However, these are not yet enough.
>
>>
>> While at it, can we consider consensus reached to start just with sh4,
>> ask for binary-sh removal and then if requested try to add other
>> flavors (having learned and gained experience from the past)?
>>
What justifies SH4 first? Is there a particular piece of hardware
based on SH4 that your interested in running DebianSH on? I don't
particularly care what variant you target first, but I'm curious why.
>
> I think it to have possibilities to delete binary-sh as had written on the top.
> However, I want to hear the opinion of other people.
>
> Best regards,
> Nobuhiro
>
>
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