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Re: Debians security features in comparison to Ubuntu



sorry, here's proper link to the presentation: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1_kTBIZLoT3VOGOFgTqjkQ3E0e4o_esV71RNzo4JuQI0/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000#slide=id.ge4adadaf_1_645

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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Stanislav Bocinec <svacko@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the nice comparison. I never realized Debian main consists of so many packages, i always considered default ubuntu intallation not so secure due to universe repo enabled by default..

Here is one interesting presentation about Ubuntu trusty 14.04 security features: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/04/ubuntu-1404-lts-security-for-human.html



On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Lupe Christoph <lupe@lupe-christoph.de> wrote:
On Sunday, 2014-05-18 at 14:46:21 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:

> Ubuntu only provides security support for the "main" and "restricted"
> archive sections: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Official_Support
> But since the "universe" section is enabled by default, you'll end up
> with a lot of unpatched security vulnerabilities on Ubuntu systems.

That must be why there are only 535 update packages for Trusty's Universe
(for 35524 packages) and 1371 updates for Precise's 29406 packages...

I admit that the numbers for multiverse are much lower (27 and 1), so
your point is valid as soon as you enable the multiverse (672 and 741
packages). I guess you wouldn't get a very capable Ubuntu system if you
disabled the Universe.

Here is a table:

Relase  | Section    | Packages | Security Updates
Precise | Main       |     8076 | 5407
Precise | Universe   |    29406 | 1371
Precise | Multiverse |      672 | 73
Trusty  | Main       |     8566 | 526
Trusty  | Universe   |    35524 | 266
Trusty  | Multiverse |      741 | 27

Numbers for Wheezy and Squeeze:

Relase  | Section  | Packages | Security Updates
Wheezy  | Main     |    35944 | 1193
Wheezy  | Non-free |      475 | 0
Wheezy  | Contrib  |      210 | 0
Squeeze | Main     |    28212 | 1777
Squeeze | Non-free |      403 | 0
Squeeze | Contrib  |      187 | 1

So by sheer numbers Ubuntu has the better security. But I'm the first to
admit that those numbers don't mean a lot except that somebody was
really busy building packages...

Lupe Christoph
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