Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely
I definitely appreciate your respectful response to whoever this person is, but
it's probably better not to feed the trolls, or, at least, the poorly informed
"activist" who doesn't understand why SySV is deprecated and why systemd is
the best choice for Linux.
Conrad
On Saturday, March 01, 2014 02:17:05 PM Leslie S Satenstein wrote:
> I am a casual Debian user and a person who has 50 years in IT. My first
> comment is that the direction that other Linux distributions are taking is
> not the system V direction. I am not a Linux Internals person, but there
> are many who are. The consensus is that systemd is better and the right
> approach for now and the future. I realize that the author of this email
> to which I am responding is upset. But, what should be done? Do a fork of
> Debian and that fork remains with Sys V?
>
> In my career, changes that I did not agree with occurred, and I was very
> upset. Two years later, I saw that the new way was as good as the old way.
> And today, the old way is history.
>
> Relax, take a deep breath, and setup a comparison matrix. You know, column 1
> is sys V, and column 2 is SystemD. Look at throughput, support population,
> maintenance, impact of multi-processors, and whatever criteria you can
> think of, and then give us something to review and to use to confirm or
> deny that the move is a good decision.
>
> By the way, the four you mention most certainly confided in others before
> recognizing that the Linux world is going forward with systemd. They
> looked at support effort and costs, and reverse engineering.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Leslie
>
> Mr. Leslie Satenstein
> SENT FROM MY OPEN SOURCE LINUX SYSTEM.
>
> >________________________________
> >
> > From: "disbandtechctte@tfwno.gf" <disbandtechctte@tfwno.gf>
> >
> >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> >Cc: gentoo-devel@lists.gentoo.org; gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org;
> >debian-security@lists.debian.org; debian-audit@lists.debian.org Sent:
> >Saturday, March 1, 2014 4:15 PM
> >Subject: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith
> >likely
> >
> >
> >FOUR people made a decision that would once have required
> >thousands of votes. FOUR votes overrideds the decision
> >debian took before the tech-ctte dictatorship to standardize
> >on system V init rather than bsd style init scripts
> >
> >The tech-ctte was created to arbitrate and decide disputes
> >between package maintainers. It was not created to decide
> >fundamental issues about the OS. Some members have used it
> >in bad faith to push through a decision
> >
> >This is a bad-faith aquisition of power here that has occured.
> >The debian tech-ctte should be disbanded for that reason
> >
> >*The tech-ctte is stacked not with volunteer debian devs, but
> >by people on the payroll of redhat and canonical of ubuntu fame,
> >that's why there was a tie-vote, they voted their paycheques
> >
> >*The monetary situation with the tech-ctte members raises a strong
> >presumption of self-dealing.
> >
> >*The way they voted party lines confirms it nearly.
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