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Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!



On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob@appelbaum.net> wrote:
> Your thoughts on this subject are really fascinating. Because while I
> agree that the idea of "security by obscurity" as the only line of
> defense is flawed, you're making assumptions and value judgments that
> seem beyond your abilities. I question your security knowledge and
> capabilities.

Yeah, yeah.  Whatever dude.

> [snip, snip]

> Have you found some actual security issue with the mirror? Are the
> packages tampered with? Are the signatures invalid?

No, I haven't found an actual security issue with the mirror.  And I
don't believe in waiting for someone to raise a security issue to
determine the actual security of a system.  Surely you would agree
that there are acceptable minimums.  I do think that it would be
prudent for the Debian Security and Mirror teams to know the specifics
about their mirror ops.  And I say that as former v.d.o mirror op,
where my experience revealed little concern over mirror operators.

The mirror in this instance seems to fall into one of two cases:
   1)  Security by Obscurity plus possible unknown foo.
   2)  Bored opers having fun.

I would think that neither of those cases immediately passes muster
with concerned security minded folks.  And, just because you are OK
with it, it doesn't mean I have to be. ;-)

-Jim P.


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