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Bug#998192: release.debian.org: Transition for gsl-2.7 / libgsl26



Hi Patrick

On 2021-11-30 22:43:11 -0700, Patrick Alken wrote:
> All, I have uploaded a new GSL release (2.7.1) which I hope fixes the
> libtool version numbers

Thank you!

Dirk, please go ahead with gsl 2.7.1 in unstable whenever you are ready.

Cheers

> 
> On 11/21/21 3:27 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> > Hi Patrick,
> > 
> > Can you please chime in (as you did in the earlier exchanges when Sebastian
> > explained to us how to set valus triplet for libtool via configure.ac) ?
> > 
> > On 21 November 2021 at 23:00, Sebastian Ramacher wrote:
> > | On 2021-11-09 12:54:44 -0600, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> > | >
> > | > On 8 November 2021 at 22:14, Sebastian Ramacher wrote:
> > | > | Control: tags -1 moreinfo
> > | > | Control: forwarded -1 https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-gsl.html
> > | > |
> > | > | On 2021-10-31 14:29:40 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> > | > | >
> > | > | > Package: release.debian.org
> > | > | > Severity: normal
> > | > | > User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
> > | > | > Usertags: transition
> > | > | >
> > | > | > GNU GSL 2.7 was release a few months ago, and we now realised (in the
> > | > | > discussion of #993324 which also included upstream) that the upstream libtool
> > | > | > instruction were in error by _not_ leading to a new sonumber. This was
> > | > | > corrected in (source package) gsl upload 2.7-3 to experimental, which built
> > | > | > well.
> > | > |
> > | > | What's the status of the fix upstream? Was there any progress? Otherwise
> > | > | we're gonna repeat that with the next upstream release.
> > | >
> > | > Those are two distinct issues.  Upstream, I think we all agreed in the thread
> > | > also recorded in the BTS, made an omission in this release where a new soname
> > | > was needed, but wasn't given. This happens.  So now we need a new soname
> > | > __because the ABI/API changed__.
> > |
> > | Yes, the ABI changed and we need a new SONAME. This would ideally be
> > | done upstream, though. Even better would be a new release with that change.
> > 
> > Yes or no. We could proceed with the patch based on your suggestion. That
> > would be "lighterweight" as we would not require upstream work right now.
> > | As far as I am aware, the bug report lacks any mail from Patrick which
> > 
> > He did participate earlier. Some of it may have been private mail between him
> > and myself; I'd have to check.
> > 
> > | would currently mean that we'd have a Debian-specific SONAME. If we go
> > | ahead with that, we will end up in on of the following cases:
> > |
> > | 1.  Upstream bumps the SONAME as we discussed it in the bug report.
> > |     Given the changes in [1], the next release of gsl would then have a
> > |     SONAME of libgsl.so.26, but with an incompatible ABI compared to what we
> > |     would have in the archive.
> > 
> > I didn't catch that aspect. Yes us moving to libgsl.so.26 by ourself now
> > would make it impossible to use that soname later :-/
> > | 2.  Upstream bumps the SONAME to a version higher than 26.
> > 
> > (That would be my stylistic preference. If the next GSL is 2.8, why not take
> > 28? I may be unaware of other style 'customs' here.)
> > | (3. Upstream simply ignores the issue)
> > |
> > | If 1. happens, we'd be unable to sync up with upstream's SONAME (there's
> > | a good reason why we tend to avoid Debian-specific SONAMEs).
> > |
> > | Patrick, what are your planes?
> > 
> > We're all ears :)
> > 
> > Dirk
> > | Best
> > | Sebastian
> > |
> > | [1] https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gsl.git/commit/?id=191bf01a38e590dd0df8aa571accbbd331bfee07
> > |
> > | >
> > | > That has happened before, and that is why we had transitions in the past.
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > | >
> > | > But not all previous releases had soname changes. I have maintained GSL here
> > | > for about 20 years and I think this is about the third transition. I would
> > | > call that defensible.
> > | >
> > | > The release team does of course have a broader view, and I am always keen to
> > | > hear your thoughts.
> > | >
> > | > Cheers, Dirk
> > | >
> > | > | Cheers
> > | > |
> > | > | >
> > | > | > I would like to ask for a formal transition. As we saw with failing tests in
> > | > | > dependent packages, binNMUs will not work for all package (but possibly
> > | > | > "most").
> > | > | >
> > | > | > Tentative ben file below.
> > | > | >
> > | > | > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > | > | > title = "gsl 2.7 transition";
> > | > | > is_affected = .depends ~ /libgsl-dev/;
> > | > | > is_good = .depends ~ "libgsl26";
> > | > | > is_bad = .depends ~ "libgsl25";
> > | > | > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > | > | >
> > | > | > Let me know if I can help otherwise.
> > | > | >
> > | > | > Cheers, Dirk
> > | > | >
> > | > | >
> > | > | > --
> > | > | > https://dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | edd@debian.org
> > | > | >
> > | > |
> > | > | --
> > | > | Sebastian Ramacher
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> > | >
> > | > --
> > | > https://dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | edd@debian.org
> > | >
> > |
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> > | Sebastian Ramacher
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