Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2012, 23:24 +0200 schrieb Julien Cristau: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 22:16:03 +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 28.03.2012, 19:11 +0200 schrieb Julien Cristau: > > > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 15:33:22 +0000, Philipp Kern wrote: > > > > SAT britney will generate additional easy hints akin to the autohinter. > > > > They're currently generated on ries and committed into a git repository > > > > which will be pulled regularly onto franck. > > > > > > > So as far as I can tell this seems to generate entirely bogus hints. > > > Do we really need more noise in update_output? > > > > entirely bogus is a bit strong, as far as I know the main difference in > > transition semantics between britney2 and SAT-Britney is that > > SAT-Britney considers smooth transitions in all sections, not just > > selected ones, hence the current hints related to java. > > > The hint I'm seeing in the log right now is: > Trying easy from satbritney: babl/0.1.6-2 libisfreetype-java/5.3.20100629-3 libisnativec-java/5.3.20100629+fix-1 > which unless I'm missing something is complete bullshit, babl has > nothing to do with those other packages. please, calling the result of someone else’s work complete bullshit is not really encouraging contributions. But if what you meant to saying is something like: „I’m surprised to see that there is one hint involving both babl and the other package, would you care to explain“, then I’ll happily do that. I’ll also move it to the list so that everyone interested can read the explanation: The hint file http://release.debian.org/britney/hints/satbritney lists first the complete transition as figured out by SAT-Brintey; hence it lists both babl and the java packages. Then SAT-Britney tries to break it down to minimal nontrivial transitions and generates hints from these, hence the next three hints. Here, it detects that the hint only mentions one package and is likely not accepted by britney and comments it own; this was requested by mehdi during DebConf 11. One may ask why the full hint is listed at all. The reason is that SAT-Britney will only generate 5 minimal hints for now. This is a safeguard as generating minimal hints is relatively slow and if there were a situation that would allow for many minimal hints I don’t want the runtime to explode. Also, because one-package-hints are commented out, I would not get feedback from britney why these hints fail. In the current setup, I can see from britney messages after the full hint where SAT-Britney goes wrong. Once I manage to get SAT-Britney in line with britney’s semantics (wrt to smooth transitions and renamed packages and what else comes up), then it should not be needed to generate smaller hints at all, as the large hint will always work. But I’m not there yet. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim "nomeata" Breitner Debian Developer nomeata@debian.org | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: nomeata@joachim-breitner.de | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata
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