Re: metaphors and feminism
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 10:22:35PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> On 2019/03/30 20:46, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Paul Wise writes ("Re: metaphors and feminism"):
> >> Personally I think the phrase "Debian Developer" and the abbreviation
> >> DD is a relic of an earlier era when the set of tasks available to
> >> Debian contributors were more technical and less varied.
> >
> > As the person perhaps most responsible for the choice of the word
> > `Developer' I think your explanation is very ... charitable. It is
> > certainly clear to at least me that it is the wrong word.
> >
> >> I try to use "Debian member" in mails since it is clearer what that
> >> means to a larger set of people and I'd like to see Debian culture
> >> (and perhaps the official documents) move towards that too.
> >
> > I see other people doing this too. I like it.
> >
> > The problem of course is that the official term is not "member" so
> > this is unclear and arguably wrong in some sense. It should be. I
> > would second a GR to change it.
> >
> > There is also a problem with acronyms. Debian Member => "DM" but we
> > already have "Debian Maintainers". I think it would be best to rename
> > Debian Maintainers too. Particularly since you can be a maintainer of
> > a package in Debian without having your key in the Debian Maintainers'
> > keyring, so this term is very confusing.
>
> +1 on renaming Debian Maintainers too in such a scenario.
>
> > ADM = "Authorised Debian Maintainers" or "Assistant/Associate Debian
> > Members" or something maybe ?
>
> So, how about:
>
> DM: Debian Members. Full members of the project that can represent
> themselves as such, vote in elections, and have a @debian.org email
> address. (Pretty much what a DD and non-uploading DD is).
VDM: Vetted Debian Members.
Mike
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