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Re: Debian Maintainers



Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> so, whats the status of Debian Maintainers?
> I see a package for it in Debian, the keyring is in ftp-master dak.conf,
> the changelog says 3 people got added. So one can guess they are able to
> upload their packages, right?
> 
> But then - where are the notices to debian-project about that? Your
> GR[1] said, in point 2, "All additions to the keyring will be publicly
> announced to the debian-project list."
> 
> 
> Next is - where are the advocation mails for the added people? The GR
> says "Advocacy messages should be posted to debian-newmaint or other
> relevant public mailing list, and a link to that mail provided with the
> application."
> 
> Now, nothing on debian-newmaint (except for someone not in the DM
> keyring). Using google with a search on lists.debian.org for the 3 names
> that are currently in returns - nothing that is an advocation mail.

DM is not fully implemented yet. AIUI, aj is still adding support in DAK to
auto-accept the byhand keyring -- but only if it was uploaded by a member of
the DM keyring team. He may also still have some more tests of the whole
system, I'm not sure.

I think it's not unreasonable to defer announcements of additions to the
keyring until we've finished putting into place the system to manage and
use the keyring.

The current 3 people in the DM keyring agreed to be beta testers of the
process, and I don't anticipate us adding more people until everything is
fully implemented and tested.

The debian-maintainers source package contains information about who
advocated each DM, as part of the changeset that adds them to the
keyring:

joey@kodama:~/src/debian-maintainers>head debian-maintainers/add-fabo 
Recommended-By: Pierre Habouzit <madcoder@debian.org>
Changed-By: Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>
Comment: adding Fathi Boudra as debian-maintainer
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:36:20 +0000
Advocates:
 madcoder - http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg00103.html
 stratus - http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg00135.html
 ana - http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2007/03/msg00131.html
KeyCheck:
 gpg: requesting key 6AA572F7 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net

If a DM is in NM, we're also currently accepting an advocation in the NM
process in leu of a mailing list post. I think this is a useful way to cut
down on the beauracracy involved. The NM docs on adocating say:
| You should only advocate someone if you think that they are ready to be a
| developer.
And being a NM is a subset of being a DD, so.. 

joey@kodama:~/src/debian-maintainers>head debian-maintainers/add-baby
Recommended-By: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
Changed-By: Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:59:23 +0200
Comment: adding debian-maintainer Miriam Ruiz
NM-Page: https://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=little_miry@yahoo.es
KeyCheck:
  pub   1024D/36EE0861 2004-12-25
        Key fingerprint = AA46 F4F2 BD59 75A4 EE42  8223 7DB9 6D2E 36EE 0861
  uid                  Miriam Ruiz <little_miry@yahoo.es>
  sig!3        36EE0861 2004-12-25  Miriam Ruiz <little_miry@yahoo.es>
joey@kodama:~/src/debian-maintainers>head debian-maintainers/add-camrdale
Recommended-By: Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>
Changed-By: Anthony Towns <ajt@debian.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:38:29 +1000
Comment: adding debian-maintainer camrdale
NM-Page: https://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=camrdale%40gmail.com
KeyCheck:
  pub   1024D/0D2036AD 2006-01-10
        Key fingerprint = FF07 84FE E439 DA85 CAF1  EA95 0F1F 76E2 0D20 36AD
  uid                  Cameron Dale <camrdale@gmail.com>
  sig!         5230514A 2006-01-24  Shaun Jackman <sdj@alumni.sfu.ca>


BTW, another place we diverge from the GR[1] during this bootstrapping
process is that not everyone listed in the GR yet has commit access to
debian-maintainers. This is mostly because debian-maintainers currently
lives in jetring's svn repo, which in retrospect was a bad decision. I
plan to set up a separate alioth project, and add the other committers
then.

-- 
see shy jo, not a fan of slavish adherence to rules,
            especially when I can write a debhelper to follow them for
	    me instead

[1] OH THE HORROR!

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