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Re: Bug#857172: Please enable SSE2 on amd64 and disable altivec on PPC ports



On 03/08/2017 10:16 PM, Karoly Balogh (Charlie/SGR) wrote:
> Right. Although the Tabor is not in production yet and never went on sale
> officially, because they're waiting for the AmigaOS4.1 developers to pull
> together some semi-working system for the machine. As it supposed to sell
> bundled...

Interesting. I had heard that there will be a AmigaOS4 port but I wasn't
aware that they were waiting for the port to be released. The boards itself
are pretty nice though.

> Indeed. Actually the X5000 seems out of stock everywhere, and A-Eon is
> quite silent these days. But if not them, then no one, at this point, I'd
> say.

I agree.

> You mean the Go developers require a company backing a port to accept it
> mainline, or just the usual case - there are zero people with both Go and
> PowerPC interest?

Both the ppc64el (POWER8) and the ppc64 (POWER5) port are maintained directly
by IBM people. I asked them about 32-Bit PowerPC and they said that it's too
old for them to care about it.

> I was referring to the idea of restricting the entire Debian PPC port to
> Altivec only.

Ok, but I'd say the majority of packages have no native Altivec support
anyway. The packages which support Altivec, are probably better off with
Altivec enabled anyway.

> Both MorphOS and AmigaOS4 has a heavily customized MPlayer port, and at
> least the MorphOS version has runtime Altivec detection.

Yeah, the Linux version does that as well.

> And no, no Firefox, but there's a WebKit
> based browser called OWB, with a custom mediaplayer subsystem (based on
> FFMPEG, et.al.), which can do Altivec with runtime detecion as well, if
> I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, I know of OWB. I'm actually a huge Amiga fan with tons of Amiga
machines sitting in the basement. I also happen to maintain Debian's
m68k port and managed to bump it to 10,500 built packages, including
Firefox and LibreOffice :).

> And the last two platforms added to MorphOS, the ACube's Sam460 and the
> A-Eon A1 X5000 have no Altivec, while most users are still on old Macs,
> with Altivec. The details might vary, but the situation is similar with
> OS4 too.

I have a Mac Mini G4 for which I have been planning to buy a license of
Morphos. It currently runs an outdated installation of Debian unstable
as it's currently put into storage.

Adrian

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