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Re: (subtitle: Britannia Rules the Waves)

Yikes, I just joined this list a couple of days ago.  I hope it's not always 
like this...  Does anyone have anything interesting to say about...  oh, 
let's see umm.. well, Debian PPC for example?  :-D

On Wednesday 21 April 2004 09:14, Joshua Narins wrote:
> Did one A Hitler really end all Hitler-like behavior?
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	David Pye [mailto:d.m.pye@herts.ac.uk]
> Sent:	Tue 4/20/04 7:52 PM
> To:	debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
> Cc:
> Subject:	Re: (subtitle: Britannia Rules the Waves)
> <snip>
> I avoided the temptation to apply to your obvious troll, the first time I
> saw it, but seeing as this has turned into a thread, I have more motivation
> to respond, if just to try to put the matter to sleep.
> > Absolutely, but the reason for my "diatribe" was the tone of admonition
> > in Mr Pye's note.  Netiquette is if you can provide help, do so,
> > otherwise stay quiet and do not use capital letters to pile on the advice
> > seeker's agony.
> Fortunately, I do not have to listen to anybody else's wonderful
> suggestions as to how to respond to posters.
>  Seeing as you could offer neither help, nor any kind of advice, even if
> harshly worded request to use English, and demonstrate some kind of
> intelligent thought in phrasing the question, to the original poster,
> surely your post is more redundant than mine?
> > Here is what David Pye wrote:
> > > c) Even ignoring a and b, you have given insufficient information for
> > > anyone to even ATTEMPT to guess what your problem might be.
> >
> > If someone has "given insufficient information" for the problem to be
> > diagnosed, you could - if you have an idea - indicate what further
> > information is required.  If you have no clue, do not admonish, someone
> > else might be able to provide help.  If information is insufficient "for
> > anyone to even ATTEMPT to guess what [the advice seeker's] problem might
> > be", the poor mug will get no response at all from anybody!  I understand
> > no French myself, so I could not have provided help on this occasion even
> > in the unlikely case I knew the solution.
> Unlike you, I am more than able to understand what the poster said, and the
> general uselessness of his question is what actually irritated me, *FAR*
> more than that it was in French. Had it been a well-written post in French,
> I might even have decided to reply to it, rather than point out the
> posters' lack of netiquette.
> If more information was needed, then again, some suggestions might have
> been offered. But for someone to be deluded enough to think that "My
> network doesn't work. Can anyone advise?" is sufficient information, then
> they deserve what was, based upon net tradition, a fairly mild admonishment
> ;)
> >     I am a sole Apple Mac user and it is a debian-powerPC list, and even
> > Debian on a Wintel machine is not relevant to me or to this list, and
> > neither Iraq nor Anglo-American colonial pursuits can even remotely be
> > construed to have a relevance here, but I suspect Mr David Pye's wrath
> > was about the use of the French language, and wrath has no place in this
> > list either.  If the language used in a particular posting is
> > inappropriate, it is for the custodians of the list to take it up with
> > the poster.
> I dont have any dislike of French - I suspect your paranoia is caused by
> some other reason, which I have no intention to delve into here.   It
> appears obvious to me by your distinctly odd and politically charged reply
> that you lack familiarity with the internet mailing lists, and their
> general standard of discussion, or debate.
> I speak reasonable French, and have no dislike of it whatsoever, and in
> this case, you are better off keeping your mistaken 'suspicions' of
> people's intentions to yourself. Rather than flagging up my suspected
> prejudice, you have rather more revealed your own.
> > -- Ashesh Kumar Datta
> Anyway, as a suggestion I spotted in a previous post pointed out:
> Adolf Hitler
> Nazism
> Godwin's law.
> Seeing as this discourse moves in no direction towards Debian PPC
> greatness, let's leave it to rest.
> David

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