I just noticed another thing... bigloo is broken. The package isn't critical to me or anything, I just thought I'd point it out. Also, gnome-panel-data and gnome-panel have dependency problems with each other (that was a neat trick, but not anything I really needed to see). Finally, is there anything I need to be doing wrt the iBook and the hard disk parameters? Or is that done automatically? Phil pgf@globalreach.net