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Bug#338979: marked as done (popularity-contest: optionally gather machine details)



Your message dated Fri, 15 Jan 2021 20:42:13 +0100
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has caused the Debian Bug report #338979,
regarding popularity-contest: optionally gather machine details
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Package: popularity-contest
Version: 1.31
Severity: wishlist

It would be nice if popularity contest could optionally gather information 
about the computer it's running on. Here are the things I've thought of:

* What vendors and models of computers run Debian.
This might be useful for convincing a vendor to help support Debian on their 
machines. So many vendors equate what what O/S a machine is running with what 
O/S it was sold with, when in reality we all know people install Debian over 
the top of whatever the machine came with once they get it :) These details 
could be gathered with debconf questions. (Disclaimer: I work for HP and I 
want this to be able to convince my management what systems to support)

* What amounts of memory and disk space a machine has.
This would allow us to determine what resources the installer, packaging 
system, and other software have to work with. After asking permission with a 
debconf question, this info could be gathered from /proc.

* What I/O devices a machine has.
This would be useful for the kernel team to determine what drivers to support 
and how. After asking permission with a debconf question, this could be 
determined with lspci/lsusb/dmidecode.

* Where on the network in relation to Debian this machine is.
This would allow us to determine where mirrors are needed. We'd have to be 
careful on this one to not reveal too much in the info gathered where the 
machine is. I'm thinking gathering the number of traceroute hops to several 
mirrors or something like that.

* What city and country the machine is located in.
This could be used for cool maps and graphs and to lobby governments to 
support Debian. Gathered by debconf questions.

* Number of users of the machine.
Interesting. Might have practical uses for default daemon settings or package 
tuning.
Probably bucketed somehow, like 1, 2-10, 10-20, 20-50, 50-100, 100-500, 500+. 
I guess it depends on how you define users, you can have a lot of 'users' of a 
website. This will need some discussion.

* What the system is used for.
Helpful in determining stuff for tasksel.
Checkboxes of various things people use debian for, maybe including an "other" 
where they can put in their own use. (if particular 'other' options show up a 
lot they could be added in future releases).

* What the system is primarily used for.
Sorting for tasksel, other uses.
radio buttons based on answers to the previous question

* class of system.
Interesting. Maybe useful for lobbying industry groups.
Radio buttons of something like 'embedded device', 'desktop', 'server', 
'mainframe', 'kiosk', 'cluster'. These selections will need some discussion. 
'cluster' in particular might be neat because it would allow us to determine 
if clusters were artificially inflating other popcon numbers (a claim I've 
heard).

Again all of these would be optional.

It might be interesting to store the results in rfc822 format somewhere on the 
system, maybe /etc/system or something? A standard for that would be neat. We 
wouldn't want that abused though, need to think about that.

Thanks,

-- 
Matt Taggart
taggart@debian.org




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On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 01:31:38PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 23:53:26 -0800 Matt Taggart wrote:
> 
> > It would be nice if popularity contest could optionally gather information 
> > about the computer it's running on.
> 
> This request is obsoleted by the Linux/BSD Hardware Database:
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Hardware/Database
> http://packages.debian.org/hw-probe
> https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe
> https://linux-hardware.org/
> https://bsd-hardware.info/

Thanks Paul!

Accordingly I close theses old bugs.

Cheers,
-- 
Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>

Imagine a large red swirl here. 

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