Re: [dev] Re: Some Issues regarding Debian versus OOo versions and Support?
Hi,
> >1. Why are you disabling the mozilla addressbook builds. They are easy
> > to do just by building mozilla-0.9.5 and making some zip archives. I
> > once explained the steps to do this and I could propbably find them in
> > the OOo mailing list if need be.
>
> I remember that, but I cant find the mail :(
> Copiing the mozilla-0.9.5 files into oo_src is a change of orig.tar.gz,
> which is the original source from upstream .. from you! :)
> If we copy the files into it, to build OOo on PPC with mozilla, we will
> break with our policy .....
>
> As workaround, I commented it out for PPC build, to create a debian-
> package first. Then we can work on a fix :)
I think we can actually change the makefile.mk to build right from the
Mozilla 0.9.5 build tree. So would it be a problem with your policies to
have both trees being used for the OOo build at the same time. Not
patches are needed for Mozilla as long as you use mozilla 0.9.5.
> gpc is not removed at all.
> Peter Novodvorski created a replacement, so we can drop gpc. He
> announced it, here:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-openoffice/2002/debian-openoffice-200204
>/msg00069.html
>
> but it does not work yet.
That's great! But Peter has never mentioned that on dev@openoffice.org
has he? I did not see any announcement. How close it it to working?
> >3. Why remove java from the build? Is this again a license issue.
> > You are allowed to ship Sun/Blackdown jres along with OOo. There are
> > Blackdown Debian java packages that can be used for the build itself.
> > Will you allow Java's use or are you disabling it in the setup
> > process?
>
> First, using Java for building OpenOffice.org will cause, that
> OpenOffice.org will come into debian/contrib, or in worst case,
> debian/nonfree. In this case, OpenOffice.org do not get the full support
> by debian, eg. autobuilders etc etc ....
>
> Java is highlly nonfree software, and we do not want to build
> OpenOffice.org with Java sometimes in the future!
> I expect OpenOffice.org in main, this means, that we find a replacement
> for gpc and try to use gcj as replacement for Java. I will recommend
> that.
>
> For further informations, please have a look at:
>
> http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
> http://people.debian.org/~opal/java/policy.html
>
> And yes, we disabled java in the setup prozess.
But what if we supply the needed classes code (built with jikes) to
interface to Blackdown's Java (already Debian packaged) and leave it in
the setup process. If Java is not found, no harm done. If java is found
(the user has already installed the Blackdown Java jre or jdk, then you
could recognize it and use it as normal.
> We are going to build the fully OpenOffice.org Package. On I386, it will
> work without limit the product itself. I only disabled mozab for PPC,
> but I am not happy with it!
That's good to hear.
> We have no "modules" for OpenOffice.org in the Debian-Bug-Track-System.
> I'm going to write a mail to several debian-mailinglists, not to file
> bugs against OpenOffice.org with your IssuesZilla and not filing bug in
> the Debian-BTS. They should write mail to
> debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org! ...
>
> We will write down a instruction for sending bugs in to the README for
> the package and package- description, too. So everybody can see, not
> filing bugs to your IssueZilla.
>
> I hope, this will help!
>
> >Or will someone in your group be formally joining the PPC Linux effort
> > at OpenOffice.org to take over handling Issuezillas filed by users
> > involving your builds. There already have been a number of bug
> > reports involving strange bugs, glibc 2.2.4 issues, etc with Debian
> > unstable users that I have tried to help on.
>
> As I mailed you allready, I will join formally, espacially for getting
> OpenOffice.org work on PPC... but ... I'm not as good as you writing C++
> code:) But I hope, I can help you!
If you join OOo then go ahead and tell Debian users to use Issuezilla
because you will be there to help run the test cases and things and let me
know where the code differs at all. Then I am very happy. No need to
redirect things to debian-openoffice unless you want to.
> >So how do you want to handle those issues. Should I be redirecting all
> >Issuezilla's involving Debian PPC Linux users to your mailing list or
> > will someone from your team be joining OOo formally to help with bug
> > tracking and fixes for Debian users (obviously the latter is much
> > better!).
>
> Let me help you!
Thanks! Welcome to the team. When you get a chance, please see about
signing the OOo license agreement and I will see you get write access to
all of the ppc linux specific pieces, bridge code, etc.
Kevin
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