Hi, On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:54:10AM +0100, Sylvain Le Gall wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 05:32:48PM -0400, Forest Bond wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:14:25PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > > > On 0, Forest Bond <forest@alittletooquiet.net> wrote: > > > > * Why all of the Debian-specific utilities in debian/utils? This is > > > > just vanity. Please, ship the upstream software, not your own. > > > > > > > > > > I won't insult the maintainer's job that easily. Their goal is to > > > offer a better user experience. They do not modify the original > > > behavior of the project (mldonkey). Feel free to not use them. > > > > I was too harsh, you are right. I apologize. > > > > However, creating non-standard, distribution-specific ways to use the upstream > > software does not improve the user experience, in my mind. It makes the user > > harder for upstream to support, and so should not be done lightly. > > As the primary writer of this utils, I really do not think having so > much "vanity". As I said above, my wording was too harsh. Please accept my apology. > You must understand that the tools provided in debian/utils are used in > various maintainer script. They are only useful for writing maintainer script. > They are not intended to be used directly by user. Most of this script can be > directly replaced by standard mldonkey command. The main difference is that > the debian/tools utils provide "offline" command (i.e. without mldonkey > running). This is only useful when you are configuring the package: the daemon > must be offline but you must manage its configuration file. > > For example, mldonkey_users allow to add user at package configuration > time. You can also add user when the daemon is running, directly into > mldonkey (mlnet). Trying to use this tool when the daemon is running is > a pretty bad idea (TM). Perhaps the utilities should go in /usr/lib/mldonkey, then, instead of /usr/bin? -Forest -- Forest Bond http://www.alittletooquiet.net http://www.pytagsfs.org
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