Re: [Fwd] Bug#621966: hasciicam: FTBFS: hasciicam.c
On Wednesday 27 April 2011 10:37:23 Jaromil wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, George Danchev wrote:
> > >to make it really clear let me specify that i'm not bashing Lucas
> > >for filing a bug here, nor the maintainers of hasciicam for giving
> > >it a very low priority: i'm trying to give an account "from below"
> > >on how things look to an upstream author.
> >
> > Maybe it is about time to be part of the solution.
>
> sure! that is my intention. but then once you are "inside" it's hard
> to consider how things look "from the outside". so i hope at least
> this discussion served to give such a picture.
The picture depends on too many factors, so I'd hesitate to draw any
conclusions.
> i've had the luck to interact with some of the best DD who, given
> access to upstream git repository, have given shape to some of the
> most complex yet well working autotools setups i've ever seen :D even
> becoming software contributors...
This shouldn't come as a surprise.
> so mine is really not a complaint about the human interaction, but
> about the automatised part, which doesn't presents opportunities for
> upstream developers to get into the debian flow and interact with its
> infrastructure, rather than sending them to upload stuff and beg
> mentors for attention.
The largest, tightly integrated free software repository on Earth (which might
easily score a Guinness record if you look of the insane amount of the archive
or cd/dvd/bd images produced on a weekly basis), has not grown due to
frivolous unsanctioned uploads of anything free that flew by... I believe the
foundation is merely based on policies, procedures, priorities, and human time
of course.
Having that said, one of the easiest ways to get into Debian flow and interact
as well, is to land a hand to one of the (possibly core) Teams:
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams
if your contributions are found to be useful (bug fixes, etc ... you could do
an upstream job too), chance are you get fast-forwarded in a pretty timely
fashion. This shouldn't come as a surprise, too if you look at some of the
recommendations sent to debian-newmaint.
> > I'd still suggest you reconsider the DM/DD links.
>
> sure i was already. it's my time to get bashed now on
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2011/04/msg00046.html
Good.
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