Re: Four days

[Raymond Wan <r.wan@aist.go.jp>]

Hi Paul,

Thank you for answering my queries so quickly; obviously, I didn't
know many of the things you listed.


On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 01:20, Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Raymond Wan <r.wan@aist.go.jp> wrote:
>> following the checklist, then maybe consider a temporary "black
>> list"...i.e., they can't ask for a sponsor for a fixed amount of time
>> or a particular package is blocked for a fixed amount of time.  Seems
>> worrying if mentors' time is being abused...maybe it is ok now [???]
>> but if things continue, then their time could be used for other things
>> (i.e., replying on this mailing list, which was the start of this
>> thread?).
>
> There are many checklists, none automated, except for lintian, which
> is used in many RFS mails, but many folks rely on the outdated version
> on mentors.d.n that doesn't run the full battery of lintian tests.


Ah!  Thanks for the links!  I guess one point is that there is neither
a "reward system" or a "penalty system" (i.e., temporary black list?)
for people to get it right before asking a mentor to sponsor a
package.  Maybe that's harsh...but the workload should be moved down
the hierarchy...not up.  :-)


> Yes, (many many) packages are removed:
>
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/#pending
> http://ftp-master.debian.org/#removed
> http://wiki.debian.org/ftpmaster_Removals
>
> Some of these are useful and others not. Personally I'd like to see
> more removals and automated removals to motivate folks to keep their
> stuff in shape.


Thanks!  I didn't know about the list of removals.

Looking at the Wiki page, it seems the conditions for removal are
pretty low.  It would be nice if "no longer maintained" was added to
the list.  (Maybe calculated from when it was last touched and how
many outstanding bugs are there and how long have they not been
addressed, with some kind of grace period.)  Of course, if it hasn't
been touched for a while but is "problem free", then there is no
reason to remove it.

I presume this is what you mean by "keep their stuff in shape"...

Thanks again for the info!

Ray