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Re: Looking for a Debian packager for FIS-GT.M : Change the History of Healthcare !!



Hi Andreas,


First of all, 


    My apologies for preaching to the choir...  :-)


     I'm just arriving full of motivation from the 
     recent VistA Community Meeting... and
     forgot that there is no need to preach in 
     the debian-med list.    Sorry about that.


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> wrote:
Hi Luis,

...
 
> The Open Source implementation of M/MUMPS that can
> be used in Linux is FIS-GT.M:
>
>                       http://sourceforge.net/projects/fis-gtm/
>
> but it currently doesn't have a Debian package for it...

That's right and we should definitely work on it.  I can confirm
that we even started to work on it at

  svn://svn.debian.org/svn/debian-med/trunk/packages/fis-gtm



This is great to hear.
I was not aware of this effort.

 
However the work is complex and needs manpower.  If you would like to
dive a bit into Debian packaging where we are happy to guide you
patiently into I'm quite positive that we can finally succeede.  You
might like to try Google for

 site:lists.debian.org/debian-med fis gtm

and you can get some kind of discussion status.  BTW, you contacted the
Debian Med developer list which is fine.  However, the discussion
regarding VistA and fis-gtm happened on our general list[1] and it seems
reasonable to keep the discussion there until we finally come to the
very technical bits.  I'd suggest you subscribe this list to learn a
bit more about Debian Med and to make sure you will not miss anything
about GT.M and VistA packaging.


Excellent,
I'll subscribe and will follow the thread there.

 
> Making a Debian package for FIS-GT.M will greatly
> facilitate its adoption by a larger community of developers.

We are pretty aware of this and if you ask me we should start *now* with
the work needed on finalising the packaging.  As you might know fis-gtm
needs kind of a bootstraping procedure which makes the integration into
Debian a bit more complex.  So we need to prepare it now to make sure it
can be included into the next release.  (It has some reason that fis-gtm
is listed as most wanted packages in the Debian Med HIS section[2].)


Excellent,
I'm happy to contribute to make this happen.
We are also lucky to have the collaboration
of GT.M   Gurus at fisglobal.


>
>            Would any one of you be willing
>            to become a packager for FIS-GT.M ?

You mean one of those 3,000 developers mentioned above?  I hope so!  As
I said:  We prepared something but nobody in our team has any idea about
Mumps nor VistA and we have no clue how to test whether it works.  We
need some person with a strong interest (according to your e-mail like
you) in a Debian package, a solid knowledge about the program itself and
the willingness to dive a slight bit into Debian packaging - which is
really not that hard if you are a bit comfortable with shell and
Makefile programming.  Our role is to guide you patiently into the
packaging process, fix bugs you might have done and complete things
inside the packaging which you might consider to complicated.  This
strategy has worked in the past in several cases (we were starting to
take influence on the future some years ago which is now history :-)).



I'm happy to work on the packaging, 
and to collaborate with others to make it happen.

It will really make a great difference in M adoption,
and on generating momentum for VistA.



After introducing you a bit into the relation of Debian Med and VistA
what about the following work plan to make the turn from plain chatting
to real coding.  

Yes !
 
You or an other Vista developer volunteers to work
inside the Debian Med team and takes over responsibility for the fis-gtm
packages.  This developer should follow the following procedure:

 0. Read our policy document carefully[6].  Most knowledge including
    links you might need is condensed there
 1. Create an account on http://alioth.debian.org

Done, thanks for the instructions 


 2. Once the account is enabled register for Debian Med team which
    will grant commit permissions to the packaging repositories
 3. Check out the relevant parts for fis-gtm (see above)
 4. Try to build the packages using this stuff.
 5. Test the packages
 6. Ask us for uploading the packages once they are considered
    ready.

For all steps: Please consult the mailing list for anything that might
remain unclear.  We are open and helpful.  Just trust us that we are on
the same side and very interested but we can not do the thing alone.


I'll follow up with these steps.

 
You might be interested in reading my next mail to the mailing list which
is not directly about VistA but I have also VistA in mind.


Certainly,

Many thanks for all the instructions and guidance.

This is all really helpful.


     Best,


          Luis
 

----------------------------------
Kind regards

       Andreas.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-med
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMedTodo#Developers
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/01/msg00454.html
[4] http://web.archive.org/web/20020824182044/http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/his
[5] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/his
[6] http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/policy.html

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