Hi, On 01/10/2024 19:02, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
On 12/08/2024 18:40, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:El 12/08/24 a las 00:27, Mike Gabriel escribió:On So 11 Aug 2024 12:57:23 CEST, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:Horde is pretty much unmaintained. php-horde-mime-viewer and php- horde-turbaare in dsa-needed.txt for a long time, but pings were never replied to either. It seems best to drop Horde (and ckeditor3 alongside) from testing.I will take a look at this the coming week or the week after (when I willhave plenty of time for Debian stuff).For ckeditor3, I will drop the symlinking of ckeditor3 and use the bundled version instead (which currently gets removed). I will also check the diffbetween Horde's bundled version of ckeditor3 and the version we have inhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=unstable;maint=team%2Bdebian-horde-team%40tracker.debian.org Debian and amend things if needed. Regarding the nearly-non-maintenance state of Horde: Horde hasn't beenported to PHP 8, yet. One of the upstream devs is working on that, but there are not official releases, yet. I will ping them about the current status.OK, that is for debian testing, right? Mike, any thought about bullseye? I am finding hard to find arguments to keep it supported, but I would like to hear from you (or from somebody else in the LTS Team) :-) ? Mike, could you please save me some time and point me to the bundled version of ckeditor3?Mike, Has there been news on horde* and ckeditor3? :) If not I believe it's best we drop support for these packages in bullseye.
Following discussions with the Debian Horde Team notably at https://salsa.debian.org/horde-team/php-horde-editor/-/merge_requests/1
- php-horde-* is broken with PHP8, starting with and sadly including bookworm/stable. 5 grave bugs confirm it:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=stable;maint=team%2Bdebian-horde-team%40tracker.debian.org- We already ship the latest Horde 5.2.x. Upstream work towards PHP8 support is present but in 6.0alpha branches, incomplete, and slow.
- We do have an upgrade path for ckeditor -> ckeditor[v4] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2025/03/msg00011.html - php-horde-* is currently removed from trixie/testing.- The Debian Horde Team wishes to keep php-horde-* in unstable with the goal of making it usable for Debian /forky/.
Consequently:- For bookworm, we suggest marking php-horde-* as EOL for Debian support in bookworm. If that makes sense we can also RM it from Debian bookworm.
- For bullseye-lts and *-elts we should be able to keep support, as we should be able to write fixes for this PHP code base. However since upstream activity for 5.2.x is very low, we could also drop support in bullseye-lts, though I'm neutral on this point.
What do you think? Cheers! Sylvain Beucler Debian LTS Team