Hi, (this thread is linked in dla-needed.txt and such) I'm not sure about the status of the nvidia drivers in LTS, so I thought it is better to ask if or not we support nvidia-drivers Said that I've juse claimed them from dla-needed.txt and will work on them, unless someone tells me not to do so ;-) -- Cheers, tobi On Tue, 2023-01-03 at 18:11 +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote: > Hi, > > LTS does support a few non-free packages following sponsors requests, > such as 'firmware-nonfree' or 'unrar-nonfree'. > > Also, the list of supported packages is currently built from curated > lists of installed packages provided from the sponsors. > One limitation is that the list needs to be refreshed and I believe > Freexian is currently asking sponsors to provide up-to-date lists of > packages. > Another limitation is that some related packages are implicitly > supported, see for instance Markus' ELTS work > 'extra-packages-to-support' about embedded package (private repo). > > Consequently it looks like nvidia-graphics-drivers and > nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-390xx can be fixed through LTS as related > packages (as explained by Markus below), though maybe not with high > priority. They probably shouldn't be explicitly referenced in > packages-to-support since there's no direct/paid sponsorship on them. > nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-340xx (not 390xx) can't be fixed because > it isn't supported upstream anymore, we can keep <ignore>-ing its CVEs. > > @Ola I'm not sure what documentation you're referring to that point you > to a different conclusion. Typically I don't think we forbid non-free > uploads, but users shouldn't expect us to support them either (as in > stable). > > I realize that this makes nvidia triaging dependent on the LTS > contributors' collective memory and personal initiative, so maybe this > should be more formally decided and documented. I personally don't > particularly wish to involve myself with non-free packages. Maybe you > can coordinate with Markus and/or open a ticket to make sure this > clarification happen? > > Cheers! > Sylvain Beucler > Debian LTS Team > > On 28/12/2022 23:45, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > > Hi fellow LTS developers > > > > As you can see below I had a question to Markus and he answered with > > very good information. > > > > My question to you all is whether we should add the > > nvidia-graphics-drivers packages to the "packages-to-support" list or if > > we should document this in some other way? > > Based on the documentation I had at hand I did not draw the same > > conclusion as Markus did and I think maybe we should change the > > documentation so I could draw that conclusion. > > > > Or have I missed something regarding the documentation we have? > > > > Or is it so that we should in fact not support the > > nvidia-graphics-dirvers packages? > > > > Cheers > > > > // Ola > > > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2022 at 00:22, Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org > > <mailto:apo@debian.org>> wrote: > > > > Hi Ola, > > > > Am Dienstag, dem 27.12.2022 um 23:48 +0100 schrieb Ola Lundqvist: > > > Hi Markus > > > > > > When triaging nvidia-graphics-drivers CVEs I realized that you > > had added > > > nvidia-graphics-drivers to dla-needed.txt. My understanding is > > that packages > > > in non-free are not supported unless explicitly mentioned in > > packages-to- > > > support file. > > > > > > The nvidia-graphics-drivers package(s) is not in packages-to-support. > > > > > > So therefore I'm asking whether adding the package was a mistake > > or if I have > > > missed something? > > > > > > I believe nvidia drivers are still supported in LTS because at least > > some > > nvidia packages are listed in packages-to-support like > > nvidia-modprobe or > > nvidia-settings. In addition I had uploaded a new > > nvidia-graphics-drivers > > package back in January 2022 [1] and I think nothing has changed > > back then. In > > general we even support non-free packages in LTS if the package is quite > > important like a driver. Nvidia drivers fits perfectly here. I'm > > more reluctant > > with leaf packages like otrs2 (because of the non-free Javascript) > > but Nvidia > > drivers are still important for many users these days. In short you > > don't have > > to worry about Nvidia drivers in LTS because this is something we try to > > support. > > > > [1] > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts-announce/2022/01/msg00013.html > > <https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts-announce/2022/01/msg00013.html> >
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