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Re: Advice regarding deleted images on Commons (tarot deck)




On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Matteo Cypriani <mcy@lm7.fr> wrote:
Hello,

Thomas Preud'homme (CC'ed) and myself are currently packaging Salut à Toi, an
XMPP-based communication system (see ITP #703659), and part of it is media
files, including a French tarot deck. This deck is of a classical design that
corresponds to the Piatnik deck originally published by Piatnik & Söhne [P&S].

The upstream author of Salut à Toi, Jérôme Poisson (CC'ed), picked the files
on Wikimedia Commons, but they have since been deleted for copyright reasons
[DEL]. Since the arguments were not very clear and Jérôme was convinced the
design was old enough to fall into the public domain, he asked for an
undeletion request [UNDEL] with some new arguments, but it was refused.
Subsequently, the remaining cards of the same design, such as [TN], have been
marked for deletion on Commons.

My questions are:
1. Can we introduce these file in Debian despite the decision made on Commons?
2. Do you have any advice for us to be sure that these images are in the
public domain, or that they're not?

Do the copyright check yourself.  Do you know of an online resource that shows a Piatnik deck with a rough publishing date, so they can be used for comparison?

You might find a close substitute desks in the following collection. CC:ing pysolffc project maintainer and contributor as xe may know the copyright status of the desk you are interested in.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/pysolfc-cardsets/+copyright
 
 
Thanks in advance for your help,

  Matteo

P.S.: Please CC Jérôme, Thomas and me if you answer to this email, as we are
not subscribed to the list.

[P&S] Piatnik & Söhne on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piatnik_&_Söhne

[DEL] Deletion request on Commons:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Tarotcards.jpg

[UNDEL] Undeletion request on Commons:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive#File:Tarotcards.jpg
This discussion will probably be moved soon, so please try this link if the
above doesn't work:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2013-03#File:Tarotcards.jpg

[TN] Examples of files marked for deletion:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tarot_Nouveau_-_Diamonds_-_Knight.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tarot_Nouveau_-_Trump_-_21.jpg



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John Vandenberg

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