Re: PHP License for PHP Group packages
Charles,
I agree with you, but I think ftp master will not change.
I really do not have more time to this unfinished topic :(
Can you adopt these packages that have RC bugs because license ?
php-net-checkip
php-services-weather
I will be very grateful, as this packages are dependence from anothers.
If not, I will ask to take off these packages from debian.
Thanks.
Jose Carlos
Em Qui, 2006-02-02 às 10:05 -0500, Charles Fry escreveu:
> It would be most helpful if we could make some progress on this issue.
> There are a handful of RC bugs whose maintainers are trying to work with
> their upstream authors to find resolution. In some cases the upstream
> authors believe that the problem should be fixed with the new PHP
> License. It is becoming unprofessional for us not to be able to give
> them a straight answer.
>
> Once again, I repeat my claim: that the 3.01 version of the PHP License
> is equally fit for licensing PHP itself and PHP Group software. This
> claim has been upheld over months of sporadic discussion on the matter
> at debian-legal.
>
> Given the lack of disagreement on this issue, I would again like to
> request that the FTP Masters update their policy to accept PHP Group
> packages with the PHP License, in addition to PHP itself. Or in the
> absense of a willingness to do so, please step forward so that we can
> further this discussion and deal professionally with the upstream
> authors of the current RC bugs related to the PHP License.
>
> cheers,
> Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Fry <debian@frogcircus.org>
> > Subject: PHP License for PHP Group packages
> > Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 18:41:33 -0500
> > To: ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org
> > Cc: debian-legal@lists.debian.org
> >
> > FTP Masters,
> >
> > As you are well aware, the current REJECT-FAQ[1] forbids the use of the
> > PHP License for anything except for PHP itself. In August I contacted
> > the Pear Group about this[2], to no immediate avail.
> >
> > In October Joerg Jaspert opened a number of RC bugs with existing Debian
> > packages of Pear packages which use the PHP License (bugs 332606,
> > 332607, 332608, 332609, 332610, 332611, 332613, 332614, 332615, 332616,
> > 332617, and 332618 are still open).
> >
> > In November I sent a message to all upstream maintainers about the
> > situation, requesting them to change their license. Pierre Joye, a
> > member of the Pear Group, reported in bug #332607[3] that the Pear Group
> > had asked the PHP Group to modify the PHP License in order to make it
> > fit for use by Pear packages. Soon thereafter he announced[4] version
> > 3.01 of the PHP License was released, and that it should fix the
> > problems we were concerned with.
> >
> > Since that time there has been an ongoing discussion about the PHP
> > License. While many are concerned that the PHP Licence itself is not
> > free (even for PHP), it appears that the new PHP License can be applied
> > on equal grounds to both PHP and PHP Group software, thus making it as
> > fit for use with Pear packages as it is for PHP[5,6].
> >
> > Given this new development, I would like to request that the FTP Masters
> > start accepting PHP Group packages licenced under the PHP License (at
> > least as long as the PHP License is still considered free enough for PHP
> > in Debian), or at least join the current discussion, pushing it to one
> > of its two logical conclusions: the acceptance of the PHP Licence as
> > free for PHP and PHP Group software (and an accompanying update of the
> > REJECT_FAQ, and the closing of the open RC bugs in Pear packages), or
> > the rejection of the PHP License for both PHP and PHP Group software in
> > Debian (and the opening of an RC bug with PHP itself, and a request to
> > the PHP Group to further update their license).
> >
> > thanks,
> > Charles
> >
> > 1. http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html
> > 2. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/08/msg00188.html
> > 3. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/11/msg00259.html
> > 4. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/11/msg00260.html
> > 5. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/12/msg00142.html
> > 6. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2006/01/msg00056.html
> >
> > --
> > Take a tip
> > For your trip
> > No wet brush
> > To soak
> > Your grip
> > Burma-Shave
> > http://burma-shave.org/jingles/1931/take_a_tip
>
>
>
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