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Re: The draft Position statement on the GFDL

> >>It's not forbidden to make copies, just to redistribute the copies of 
> >>the derived works.

> >What's your basis for making this statement?

On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 11:18:36AM -0300, Humberto Massa wrote:
> copyright law in the US (17 USC +) AFAIK does not regulate *using* 
> software or other copyrighted works, it regulates copying *and* 
> redistributing.

But we were talking about making copies.

> In Brazilian copyright+computer_programs law, you can 
> make as many copies as necessary to use some software.

That's specific to that jurisdiction, not a part of a license.

> >>You can combine gcc and metafont and make a new compiler; you can even
> >>make a script that combines them, apply some patch to the combination,
> >>and compiles the result to get to your invention; what you can't do
> >>is to redistribute the resulting binary nor the resulting source.

> >Perhaps there's some part of the GPL that gives this permission which
> >I've overlooked?  If so, please quote this.

> section 2:
> 2.  You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of 
> it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute 
> such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided 
> that you also meet all of these conditions:

And how would this part of the terms of Section 1 be satisfied in
this case:

   "...provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each
    copy an appropriate copyright notice and disclaimer of warranty;
    keep intact all the notices that refer to this License.."

Alternatively, how are you combining gcc and metafont without making a
copy of the software which combines gcc and metafont?

> Let's see, eliminating the irrelevant (to our discussion) parts: [[ 
> 2,/caput/ ]] You may modify; you may copy such modifications with all 
> rights we waived in section 1; provided [[ 2, a ]] you mark the files as 

Slow down, are you saying section 1 is irrelevant, or that you've
satisfied its terms?

> I said: You can modify gcc, combining it with metafont (as long as you 
> don't eliminate 2,c announcements -- which AFAIR gcc does not have); 

If you can put appropriate copyright notices on it, sure.  I'm not
sure how you're going to so this, but I'm sure you'll clear that up
for me.


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