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Re: making udev require 2.6.15 kernels

On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 01:03:53AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 08:11:34AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 04:20:02PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > This means you're not guaranteed to get /usr/sbin/sshd, which many admins
> > > use exclusively for system administration where remote kvm is not an
> > > affordable option.  That's a pretty big problem.
> > Maybe we need a sshd in /sbin then, since as i understand there is no real
> > guarantee that /usr is mounted always in case of problems ? 
> No, we need to do a good job of *ensuring the system is safely rebootable
> at all times*.  Why should we be satisfied with upgrades that have to come
> with a big warning label, "system may not boot back up completely if you
> leave your desk for coffee and the power goes out"?  I think we have every
> right to expect more from Debian (and ourselves) than that.

So, you want /usr/sbin/sshd to be runable even if /usr is not mounted ? What
about the case you have a corruption in /usr and only / is mounted read-only ?

I mean, that is what /bin and /sbin are for, to put in them whatever tools are
always needed by the system administrator, even if something has gone terribly


Sven Luther

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