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Re: Plasma versions and Debian point-releases

Yeah Plasma doesn't follow semantic versioning, the left-most part is the Qt version it's based on, the middle number more of a major version, and the right-most one something between minor and patch in semver terms.

This is not specific to 6.5 if you look at any 6.x they have similar levels of churn.


Happy hacking,
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Aurélien


Le 18 novembre 2025 00:01:58 GMT+01:00, Quentin Aymard <quentin.aymard@proton.me> a écrit :
Yeah I figured the changelog for 6.5 is quite massive indeed, but I wasn't sure this was an intended outcome for all minor plasma releases, or just kind of a one-time impressive version.

I was refering such releases as "minor" mainly in the semver style : major.minor.patch.

Anyway, thanks again for all the work and explaining !
Kinds regards

Le lundi 17 novembre 2025 à 23:57, Aurélien COUDERC <libre@coucouf.fr> a écrit :
Hi,

Plasma 6.x releases are definitely *not* minor releases, check any of the upstream release notes.

They all introduce UI and workflow changes (and bugs) that are exactly what we don't want in stable.

Like Patrick said the Debian policy is only to backport specific commits for specific fixes into stable.


Happy hacking,
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Aurélien


Le 17 novembre 2025 22:51:29 GMT+01:00, Quentin Aymard <quentin.aymard@proton.me> a écrit :
Thank you Patrick for clarifying.

I thought point-releases of Debian were aimed at uploading newer versions of packages to Stable as long as the feature set remained consistent (no breaking change or major user experience modification).

Does this mean I misunderstood the idea behind point-releases, or do Debian KDE team consider minor releases (eg 6.x) of Plasma to be "too much" of a jump forward, making them unsuitable for point-releases ?

Thanks


Le lundi 17 novembre 2025 à 19:53, Patrick Franz <deltaone@debian.org> a écrit :



Hi Quentin,

Am Montag, 17. November 2025, 19:08:34 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit
schrieb Quentin Aymard:

Hi,

I'm still new to some parts of Debian's and KDE's lifecycle. I think I
understand that :

- hotfixes from upstream Plasma (6.3.x) should end up in or be
backported to Debian stable ;

- minor versions of Plasma (eg. 6.5) might at some point become
available in Debian stable through upcoming point-releases (eg 13.3,
13.4, etc) in place of the current minor version (6.3.x) ;

- as opposed to major versions (eg. something like Plasma 7.x far in
the future) that should only be included in unstable then testing, as
the "next-stable" channel, preparing the future of Debian 14.

Am I correct ?


Partially. Debian Stable will only get targeted fixes ("hotfixes") that
each fix one particular issue. Since Plasma 6.3 is EOL, those will then
have to be backported from newer Plasma releases.

However, Debian Stable will stay on Plasma 6.3. It is not going to get
Plasma 6.4, 6.5 or whatever. Updating Plasma to later releases would
defy the point of "stable".


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Med vänliga hälsningar

Patrick Franz


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