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Re: Versions of kf6 packages in unstable / testing?



Hi!

Shmerl - 29.11.24, 20:10:14 MEZ:
> Now that Plasma 6 and recent applications using kf 6 / Qt 6 started
> moving to unstable,
> I noticed that they are still built against KDE Frameworks 6.6.0.
> 
> So my previous installation in testing with packages from experimental
> that were built
> against 6.7.0 is a bit at odds with it (probably requires kf6 packages
> downgrade in testing
> to be updated smoothly?).

I wrote before that KF 6.7.0 was not supposed to go into experimental.

Priority now is to get Plasma 6 into testing. KF upgrades will come at a 
later time.

Again: Debian Testing/Unstable is not primarily about having the latest 
versions of everything immediately after release. It is about preparing 
for next stable. Rest assured the KDE/Qt Debian team is aware of KF still 
at 6.6 in unstable, while 6.7 is in experimental. Allow Plasma 6 to 
migrate to testing and then for some additional time for the team to 
prepare whatever KF 6 version is then most current and suitable. Plasma 6 
needs to go into testing first and the fallout from this settle a bit.

I just answered to the mail of an user who complained about a black 
desktop in German language upstream KDE user mailing list. That user is 
using Debian Testing and is likely affected by the plasma-framework version 
for Plasma 6 in testing issue. While Testing and Unstable are not expected 
to be stable at all times it is important to iron out things like this. 
Cause it appears more users are using Testing than I would have though, 
basically expecting to be able to just use it like a kind of always stable 
rolling distribution. This is just not what Debian Testing/Unstable is 
about. And still of course it is important to fix things up that go wrong 
during development and package migration. I pointed the user to this 
mailing list, but it may be he is not fluent with English language. So 
let's first settle the churn a bit, and then upload new stuff.

Again: This is not a competition, not a race. If you like to have the 
latest version of everything at all times, then Debian Unstable/Testing 
might not be the right distribution for you. I really want to set 
expectations straight here.

Plasma 6.2 can run with a certain range of KF 6 versions, so it is not 
really an issue if it does not run on the latest KF version available at 
all times in Testing/Unstable.

The aim is of course to ship recent enough versions in next stable, but in 
the end it will be whatever versions work best giving upcoming Debian 
release schedule, upstream release schedules, stability of different 
versions, time to prepare new versions for Debian and various other 
factors, like compatibility with other packages in Debian and so on.

Thank you.

Best,
-- 
Martin - please no carbon copy to me



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