Re: 18.08; imap.googlemail.com vs. imap.gmail.com; "akonadi resources for google services"
On Friday, October 5, 2018 9:02:44 AM CEST Frank Mehnert wrote:
> On Freitag, 5. Oktober 2018 03:18:55 CEST inkbottle wrote:
> > On Friday, October 5, 2018 3:10:45 AM CEST you wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 9:17:25 PM CEST Frank Mehnert wrote:
> > > > Since the recent kdepim upgrade I cannot read e-mails with kmail
> > > > anymore.
> > > > First I thought I can fix it like proposed by inkbottle but my problem
> > > > seems to be different:
> > > >
> > > > When kmail tries to synchronize the imap resource for my gmail account
> > > > then
> > > > the QtWebKit window is shown asking for my credentials. I pass my
> > > > usual
> > >
> > > In my case, after I changed imap.gmail.com to imap.googlemail.com, and
> > > reentered my password, both action being performed inside
> > > Kmail-Settings,
> > > I
> > > am not asked anymore for *credentials*:
> > >
> > > I mean, after performing the above modifications, it's a whole "new"
> > > account, from the point of view of kmail, the one previously existing
> > > using
> > > "imap.gmail.com" has been ditched altogether.
> > >
> > > And from that point onward, I'm not bothered by any popup dialogue:
> > > which
> > > origin I do not know (even if it claims it is Google, I've got not way
> > > to
> > > verify that information), and which therefore I obviously do not trust.
> > >
> > > (Again, I did had the "credential"-popup after log-in. But I dismissed
> > > it,
> > > I answered cancel; Then I did the "hack". And the popup never came back)
> > >
> > > It behaves exactly as "the next guy", and not at all after any specific
> > > Google/Oauth pattern.
> > >
> > > The trick about using imap.googlemail.com in place of imap.gmail.com,
> > > I've
> > > probably learned it here, on that list, or on irc: in any case, googling
> > > with those keywords could provide further clues.
> > >
> > > (I understand there is no warranty that imap.googlemail.com will perform
> > > as
> > > described above, it might depends on the area you live in, or whatever)
> > You also probably have to allow for "less secure
> > connections/authentication" on you google account: But I believe that has
> > been done already.
> I just re-enabled this settings and are back to SSL/TLS / clear text but
> one of the benefits of the recent kdepim upgrade is being able to disable
> that setting finally (and not getting the annoying reminders from Google).
I too have been utterly upset by the constant Google's security warnings;
which I deem are in themselves a security threat, because they are coming at
any time of the day, on your phone, and there will sure be a time, when you'll
hit the wrong button, or end up giving your credential to a spoofing agent.
(hit the wrong button, meaning hitting the button that will allow Google to
manage everything it wants on your accounts, and on your phone)
So I finally found a way to turn them off altogether:
At the bottom of that google's help page, they tell you haw to do it.
I copy the instructions here so I too can find them if again in dire need of
Note: It takes about a week for alerts to get turned off. This is because
Gmail wants to confirm it's you that's turning them off, and not someone else
who might have access to your account.
On your computer, open Gmail.
In the bottom right, click Details.
At the bottom of the page next to "Alert preference," click Change.
Select Never show an alert for unusual activity.
> And I changed the IMAP server to imap.googlemail.com and fixed my password
> as well but still, not being able to read e-mail using SSL/TLS / gmail :-(
> I reported my bug upstream
> but so far no response.
> Kind regards,
> > [...]