Re: plasma desktop broken again :(
On Friday 30 October 2015 00:09:31 Gary Dale wrote:
> On 29/10/15 04:54 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:54:22 -0400
> > Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Gary,
> >
> >> And not wanting to rehash that old argument, the current system is
> >> clearly not working. Surely all the bright people maintaining Debian
> >
> > Debian is run by humans. Humans, being humans, make mistakes. It's
> > been admitted that libqt5x11extras5 v5.5.1 getting into testing was not
> > ideal. Also, reference to this being a corner case. IOW, a situation
> > that was difficult, if not impossible, to foresee.
> >
> >> can come up with something better?
> >
> > It works the way *they* want it, mistakes notwithstanding. If you don't
> > like that method of migration, then maybe Debian testing isn't for you.
> > Breakage happens in testing. By and large, not frequently, but it does
> > happen. Also, it's not usually such a major issue. To paraphrase a
> > well known English saying; "Stuff happens".
>
> Yes, but it's been happening a LOT this time around. I've been running
> Debian Testing for over a decade and don't recall seeing this many major
> fails ever.
>
> If my memory serves me, KDE4 didn't make it into Testing until it was
> reasonably complete and stable - somewhere after 4.2 wasn't it? Until
> then Testing still had KDE3. Why the push to get KDE5 out when it is
> still having massive teething problems?
Because we (unstable and/or testing users) want it ASAP :-)
Breakages happen all the way, but you should be able to apply workarounds to
recover - in this case downgrading libqt5x11extras5.
If you don't want (or can't) do that, unstable (and maybe testing) is not a
good choice for you.
The 'brute force' method would be to use btrfs + snapshots before each upgrade
(e.g. done by a little script that automatically removes old shapshots).
That is the burden to unstable users - but it also is kind of fun.
Regards,
Tim
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