Hi Brad, Am Mittwoch 02 September 2015, 16:16:10 schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 10:21:47 -0400 > Gary Dale <garydale@torfree.net> wrote: > > Hello Gary, > > >Yesterday I rebooted my computer but when it came back up and I logged > >in, Plasma was no longer usable. > > Come on Gary, you've been on this ML long enough to know that KDE is > going through some *massive* changes ATM. The path from KDE4 to > KF5/Plasma is far from an easy one to tread. Not least because of the > change to GCC v5. KF5/Plasma is very, /very/ different from KDE4. It's > not a huge surprise, to me at any rate, that some packages don't (yet) > have their dependencies sorted out fully. > > If one finds, when doing an update, it's necessary to remove large > numbers of packages to get everything updated then one should pause and > consider; Do I really want to lose half of my software suite? Usually > the answer is "no". In that case, see what can be updated without > ripping the heart out of your system. > > Testing sometimes has breakage. Sometimes that breakage is big. You > just have to deal with it. If you can't.... > > ....there's always stable. To me, that kind of breakage (due to the transitions KDE4->KF5 *and* GCC4->GCC5 at the same time) is what we're used to see in unstable. This is what unstable is for, imho. By letting these transitions happen simultaneously in unstable as well as testing, the ML became flooded with all-the-same-topic mails over and over, because many people are using testing who do so because they like to be more recent than stable while not daring enough to expedition into unstable land. I guess it might have been wiser to let the transitions happen in unstable, since the massive breakage you mention was to be expected, and have the smaller issues and oversights ironed out in testing. This scheme worked out quite well in the past. Kind regards, Christian
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