Re: KDEPIM issues (was: Re: Bugs bugs bugs)
Am Sonntag, 22. Februar 2015, 16:13:10 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Am Samstag, 21. Februar 2015, 16:32:33 schrieb Volker Wysk:
> > I've never used the experimental branch. When will the packages migrate
> > to Unstable?
>
> They won´t before Jessie release.
>
> Maybe KDEPIM 4.14.5 could make it to unstable as its only bug fixes, but
> that would need an exception from the release team as well in this late
> state of Jessie freeze, I think – unless they fix RC bugs (and only! them).
> The freezing / release policy is clarified in some document I don´t have
> the URL at hand at the moment, should be easy to find.
This should be it:
https://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html
It doesn't predict when Jessie will be released, but I get the impression that
it won't be much longer.
> > > For me beside KDEPIM KDE / Plasma 4.14.2 really works quite good.
> > > KDEPIM basically works, but there are still a lot of open issues.
> >
> > Exactly...
>
> Well, that may not change *that much* with a newer version. 4.14.5 has
> some bugs fixed, but I compiled kdepim-runtime and kdepimlibs 4.14.5 on top
> of KDEPIM 4.14.2 as packages by debian and I still have most of the
> issues.
What do you mean by "compile on top of"?
What sources are you using? I can find only 4.14.3 on kde.org, not 4.14.5.
> And the Plasma 5 / Qt 5 port of KDEPIM is not yet ready as far as I am
> aware of. Even that will use the Akonadi as we now it today, so it may
> have still similar shortcomings and bugs.
This means that parts of the KDE SC will use Plasma 5 / Qt 5, whereas other
parts (KDEPIM) still use Plasma 4 / Qt4 ? Will that work? It sure wouldn't
make sense to run Akonadi4 and Akonadi5 simultaneously.. ? Is Akonadi only
used by KDEPIM?
> I still use POP3 for my main private
> account, but also IMAP is fragile, with Exchange, but there Exchange has
> at least a fair share in causing the trouble.
You mean Microsoft Exchange?
> What could work quite well, and thats why I think for Munich it could
> work, would be to have some decent (!) IMAP server like Dovecot (not
> Exchange!) together with KMail.
> So while for me KDEPIM and Akonadi got a lot better, like Nepomuk got,
> before Vishesh replaced it by Baloo which works even better, KDEPIM and I
> think especially Akonadi still has a fair share of issues. I think the
> majority of the bugs I reported for KDE / Plasma in the last 2 or 3 years
> with bugs.kde.org has been with Akonadi and KDEPIM.
I see...
> Yet, reporting those won´t magically make them go away and upstream could
> need more developers. Thats why I hope that the adoption of KDEPIM for
> Munich will help its overall stability. Cause frankly, from what I see so
> far, it is not enterprise ready at all.
> So for a clearly defined setup where you control server and client I think
> for IMAP it can work okay. Not excellent, but okay.
I use the mail server of my web hoster, and download the mail to my desktop
system, using POP3 - no need for IMAP. It's simple this way.
> In case you want to go that route, I suggest you also subscribe to kdepim-
> users and probably kde-pim upstream mailinglists via lists.kde.org and be
> prepared to deal with any issues you see, report bugs, help with bug
> triaging and try to be patient.
Yes, that's what it amounts to.
Bye
Volker
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