I have posted to both Deb-users & -kde lists and received three replys to these postings. Yet, I still do not see the postings when I visit the list sites and its been about 24 hrs since posting. Anyone know how this can be? Neither lists has changed since the first visit a day ago. I thought I might be blacklisted again due to having SBCYahoo DSL as my ISP until I got the replys. Very strange. Leonard Chatagnier lenc5570@sbcglobal.net