Re: Automounter in KDE
> GNU doesn't have a problem with removable media. Linux, the kernel, sucks
> for removable media. And until the kernel devs get out of the 1970s,
> that's not going to change.
but the problem is that GNU is nothing without Linux kernel.
And things with removable media should be done on kernel side.
------- Original message -------
From: Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com>
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Automounter in KDE
Date: 11 Август 2005 20:08
> On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:13 am, serja wrote:
> > > This has been a long thread which has left me none the wiser. Could
> > > somebody sum up the present conclusions or point to an
> > > easy-to-understand resource on present KDE, Debian or Linux mounting
> > > philosophy?
> >
> > I think developers from kernel.org not really support the idea of
> > automounting and they definitely not support the unplugging / hardware
> > eject of removable media thingies without umounting them.
>
> And that, of course, is the core problem. Yes, removing stuff without
> unmounting it is a problem that is not solved without eliminating
> write-behind cache. Fine. But when I plug in my multi-slot USB card
> reader, it should automatically create logical, consistent names for each
> slot independently and then mount them as needed. There is, in 2005,
> simply no excuse for that to not work automatically.
>
> Yet, when I do so, I have to first spend an hour with udev's various
> not-well-named-or-documented tools to figure out what the heck it is and
> how to identify it, then write a udev rule that I hope works. Then when I
> insert a card, I first have to unplug and replug the reader so that it
> notices (no joke), then wait about 15 seconds while nothing happens, then
> try to mount the device (generally using KDE 3.4's media:/ IOSlave these
> days, but whatever). That's about a paragraph too long. And that's on
> Debian with KDE. Fedora with Gnome, SuSE with fvwm, it would likely be
> different.
>
> This is very much a hardware-software interface issue, which means it's a
> kernel issue. Whether the tool itself is in user space or kernel space
> architecturally, the fault for removable media still sucking lies with the
> kernel team. This is a problem they should be solving, not punting to a
> half-dozen half-baked, incompatible bandaids. (And yes, that's what even
> media:/ is.)
>
> GNU doesn't have a problem with removable media. Linux, the kernel, sucks
> for removable media. And until the kernel devs get out of the 1970s,
> that's not going to change.
>
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