This is the Debian-KDE list. (was: Re: kde 3.4 in sid)
On Wed April 6 2005 17:06, David Pastern wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 03:09 +1000, Derek Broughton wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 April 2005 13:20, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > > Am Mittwoch, 6. April 2005 18:04 schrieb Petr Baláš:
> > > > Biggest graphics "card" vendor is Intel with integrated chip sets.
> > >
> > > Vendor maybe but I really doubt that is has the biggest user base among
> > > Linux users.
> > Why?
> Actually, Intel is not the largest OEM video chip set manufacturer - ATI
> is. Has been for some time, and in fact from stats I saw it's share is
> growing. That said, ATIs Linux drivers are a laughable joke.
> > > Integrated graphics is like integrated sound: it works if you don't
> > > expect much. But in case of e.g. distorted sound, you are better off
> > > getting something real.
> > The "average" user doesn't need a great sound system and super 3d
> > accelerated video on their computer. In fact, I'd be surprised if there
> > weren't more people using on-board video for Linux than for other OS's as
> > we're not primarily a gaming community. I'm using i815 right now, i915
> > when the new laptop arrives in a week or so.
> Yup. I agree. The average user just is a monkey doing button clicking.
> They don't understand what they're doing, they just have a routine of
> click here, do this, click here, do that. Finish. Since I work in a IT
> related support/helpdesk role, try asking Windows customers 'can you go
> into device manager please'. See how many:
> 1. know what you're talking about
> 2. Can find it
> 3. Can find it in a reasonable time frame
> You'll be surprised (or maybe not) that the vast majority (>= 90%)
> can't. And they're not interested. These sorts of users generally
> aren't interested in fancy accelerated graphics for games, or fancy
> positional sound either. They just want a machine to do the basics.
> Email. Websurf. IRC. Chat to friends. Listen to some music here and
> there etc.
This thread is so far off-topic it hurts. Can we take it somewhere else,