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Re: Bug#247312: konqueror: opening of bookmarks is much slower when clicking directly on Bookmarks menu



> > > Ok, this bitter answer demonstrates that you don't know how things
> > > work here (at leat in debian KDE). To put it straight, there's not
> > > enought people and not enought time. If you are willing to
> > > volunteer, you are very much welcome. I'm also a user and try to
> > > help as much as I can, fixing bugs, dealing with the BTS and such.
>
> You don't get it.
>
> > Now, now.  I know we are all busy, and it would be nice if the
> > submitter had done this for you, but bug triage is ultimately the
> > maintainer's job.
> > There is no point yelling at a user because they didn't do your
>
> Who's yelling?

And so on, and so forth.

Hmm. A flame war in a bug report. And over a fairly trivial issue as well.
Looks like things could do with a bit of cooling down.

I've read most of the bug history. And I must say to the submitter: if you 
think 7 months is bad, you're in for bigger disappointments. There are 
bugs in the BTS that are over 3 years old (some even on issues not as 
trivial as this one...).

Although in principle bug triage _is_ the job of the package 
maintainer(s), it is also their good right to prioritize their work, 
*especially* as we are all volunteers.

IMO the responsibility of a maintainer for bug triage is bigger if 
upstream is less accessible to users. For KDE this is clearly _not_ the 
case. Upstream has a great BTS themselves, open to all and easy to find. 
They even have a nice voting system that allows users to collectively 
determine the priority of an issue.

I myself have over the past 5 years or so made the transition from "file 
everything in the Debian BTS as that's my distribution" to "hey, where 
does this problem come from and let's file upstream if more appropriate". 
In the second case I may also submit a bug in Debian's BTS if I feel the 
maintainers or other users should be aware of the problem.
Of course packaging related issues should always go to Debian's BTS, but 
especially for wishlist and minor issues that are clearly upstream, 
submitting directly to KDE's BTS is often the better solution as their 
manpower (and ability to judge the severity and relevance of an issue) is 
way greater than Debian's KDE team.

I must say I'm very happy with KDE support ATM. The recent additions the 
team can clearly be seen in the results and in my experience maintainers 
are very responsive to issues raised e.g. on this list.

So guys (and even gals maybe?), thanks and don't let this bother you too 
much.

A last suggestion to the submitter: you could have tried asking here how 
best to proceed.

Cheers,
FJP

(Debian and KDE user, wannabe DD and volunteer in the debian-installer 
project)

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