Could someone help test this? Since KDE3.3 went into unstable I have discovered that if I change my default shell to tcsh, I am unable to log in to KDE. What happens is that the screen will blink a couple of times, and you will then be returned to KDMs login screen. It works with bash. Kind Regards Anders E. Andersen -- This email was generated using KMail from KDE 3.3 on Debian GNU/Linux