Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: rawat@iucaa.ernet.in [mailto:rawat@iucaa.ernet.in]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 05:19 AM
> To: michael@wizard.ca
> Cc: nick@glimmer.demon.co.uk, debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming
>
> Hi,
> i upograded from kde 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 last nite using synaptic on
> woody..............it went like a dream with not a single
> problem!.................
> i would strongly recommend you to use synaptic instead of apt-get as it is
> much better at handling dependencies etc..........
> abhishek.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I just did a 3.1.3 upgrade to 3.2.3 (sic) and the only thing that failed
> > was postgresql, but I played a lot. However, the following packages
> > were kept back.
> > Building Dependency Tree... Done
> > The following packages have been kept back
> > cervisia debconf kappfinder kate kbabel kbugbuster kcalc kcontrol
> > kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data
> > kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdeprint kdesdk kdesdk-kfile-plugins kdesdk-misc
> > kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmail kmenuedit kompare
> > konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver
> > ksnapshot ksplash kspy ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kwin libarts1
> > libarts1-dev libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libpaperg libqt3-headers
> > libqt3-mt-dev poxml qt3-dev-tools xbase-clients xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa3
> > xlibs xlibs-dev0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and
> > 54 not upgraded.
> >
> > apt-get install libxcursor1 got me to the next step, as it now depends
> > on different packages, however this still wasn't a new enough version
> > according to apt-get.
> > "ksplash: Depends: libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2) but 1.0.2-1woody2 is to be
> > installed"
> > This would stop the meek and timid from using apt-get, although it
> > SHOULD work that easy, but remember this is not standard Debian tree
> > stuff. I suggest that we get that dependency taken care of before you
> > try it. Andreas?
> >
> > However, I notice you using backports, so it might be different, but I
> > see no libxcursor there so I expect the same results for you.
> >
> >> I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
> >> the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
> >> download.kde.org.
> >>
> >> My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
> >> upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
> >> I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.
> >>
> >> If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
> >> I get totally scary output for both cases.
> >>
> >> Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
> >> aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
> >> results. Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.
> >>
> >> As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
> >> some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).
> >>
> >> On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
> >> _remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
> >> ... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig,
> >> ssh, gcc, etc., etc.
> >>
> >> Anyone got any clue as to whether this is tractable, or is something
> >> badly broken to the point of uselessness here ?
> >>
> >> ========================< cut >=========================
> >> # aptitude -s upgrade
> >> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
> >> Package Lists... Done
> >> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
> >> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
> >> Dependency Tree... 86%Building Dependency Tree... Done
> >> The following packages have been kept back:
> >> ark arts artsbuilder debconf kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder
> >> kasteroids kate kaudiocreator kbackgammon kcontrol kdeartwork-style
> >> kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin
> >> kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
> >> kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdeprint
> >> kdesktop
> >> kdf kdm kfind kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager khelpcenter kicker
> >> klipper
> >> kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid kmix knode knotes konqueror
> >> konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete kpackage kpager kpersonalizer kppp
> >> krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd
> >> ksysv
> >> ktip kwin libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
> >> libarts1-xine libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libnspr4 libnss3
> >> libpaperg libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev mozilla-browser mozilla-psm
> >> mpeglib noatun qt3-dev-tools quanta snmp x-window-system-core
> >> xbase-clients xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3 xlibs
> >> xlibs-dev
> >> xterm
> >> The following packages will be upgraded:
> >> imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs4-doc
> >> lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1 libfreetype6
> >> libfreetype6-dev
> >> libmimelib1 libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2
> >> libxslt1
> >> proxymngr twm x-window-system xdm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
> >> xfonts-base
> >> xfonts-konsole xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev
> >> xnest
> >> xprt xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xspecs xutils xvfb
> >> 38 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 91 not
> >> upgraded.
> >> Need to get 54.4MB of archives. After unpacking 43.2MB will be used.
> >> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Abort.
> >>
> >> # aptitude -s dist-upgrade
> >> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
> >> Package Lists... Done
> >> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
> >> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
> >> Dependency Tree... 84%Building Dependency Tree... Done
> >> The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
> >> libsnmp5 libxrender1 xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu
> >> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
> >> abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins adduser ark arts
> >> artsbuilder base-config bonobo bsdmainutils console-common
> >> console-data
> >> console-tools cvs diald dpkg-dev efax enscript fetchmail
> >> fetchmail-common
> >> freeswan gcc-3.0 gdm gnome-applets gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
> >> gnome-session gnome-utils gs gs-common guarddog gv htdig ipchains
> >> ipmenu
> >> iptables kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder karbon kasteroids
> >> kate
> >>
> >> kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbear kcd kchart kcontrol kde-theme-liquid
> >> kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins
> >> kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
> >> kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs
> >> kdeprint kdesktop kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdm kernel-package
> >> kernel-source-2.4.18 kfind kformula kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager
> >> khelpcenter kicker kit kivio klipper kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid
> >> kmidi
> >> kmix kmyfirewall knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror
> >> konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontour kopete koshell kpackage kpager
> >> kpersonalizer kppp kpresenter krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver
> >> ksplash kspread ksysguard ksysv ktip kugar kwin kword kxconfig
> >> leafnode
> >> less lftp libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
> >> libarts1-xine libglide3 libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data
> >> libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4
> >> libpaperg libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev localeconf locales magicfilter
> >> man-db
> >> mirrormagic modconf mozilla-browser mozilla-psm mpeglib
> >> msttcorefonts
> >> mysql-server nas-dev nas-lib netbase noatun ntpdate pidentd poster
> >> ppp
> >>
> >> pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf psfontmgr psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta
> >> samba
> >>
> >> samba-common smbclient smbfs ssh swat telnetd whiptail wvdial
> >> x-ttcidfont-conf x-window-system x-window-system-core xaw3dg xdm
> >> xlibmesa3-gl xlibmesa3-glu xlibs-pic xnest xpdf xpdf-reader
> >> xpdf-utils
> >> xprt xprt-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86
> >> The following packages have been kept back:
> >> debconf xbase-clients xlibs xlibs-dev xterm
> >> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >> libsnmp5 libxrender1 xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu
> >> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >> abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins adduser ark arts
> >> artsbuilder base-config bonobo bsdmainutils console-common
> >> console-data
> >> console-tools cvs diald dpkg-dev efax enscript fetchmail
> >> fetchmail-common
> >> freeswan gcc-3.0 gdm gnome-applets gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
> >> gnome-session gnome-utils gs gs-common guarddog gv htdig ipchains
> >> ipmenu
> >> iptables kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder karbon kasteroids
> >> kate
> >>
> >> kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbear kcd kchart kcontrol kde-theme-liquid
> >> kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins
> >> kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
> >> kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs
> >> kdeprint kdesktop kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdm kernel-package
> >> kernel-source-2.4.18 kfind kformula kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager
> >> khelpcenter kicker kit kivio klipper kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid
> >> kmidi
> >> kmix kmyfirewall knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror
> >> konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontour kopete koshell kpackage kpager
> >> kpersonalizer kppp kpresenter krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver
> >> ksplash kspread ksysguard ksysv ktip kugar kwin kword kxconfig
> >> leafnode
> >> less lftp libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
> >> libarts1-xine libglide3 libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data
> >> libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4
> >> libpaperg libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev localeconf locales magicfilter
> >> man-db
> >> mirrormagic modconf mozilla-browser mozilla-psm mpeglib
> >> msttcorefonts
> >> mysql-server nas-dev nas-lib netbase noatun ntpdate pidentd poster
> >> ppp
> >>
> >> pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf psfontmgr psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta
> >> samba
> >>
> >> samba-common smbclient smbfs ssh swat telnetd whiptail wvdial
> >> x-ttcidfont-conf x-window-system x-window-system-core xaw3dg xdm
> >> xlibmesa3-gl xlibmesa3-glu xlibs-pic xnest xpdf xpdf-reader
> >> xpdf-utils
> >> xprt xprt-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86
> >> The following packages will be upgraded:
> >> imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs-data
> >> kdelibs4-doc ksysguardd lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1
> >> libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev libmimelib1 libnspr4 libnss3
> >> libqt3-headers
> >> libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2 libxslt1 proxymngr
> >> snmp
> >> twm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-konsole
> >> xfonts-scalable
> >> xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa-gl-dev
> >> xlibmesa-glu-dev
> >> xlibmesa3 xspecs xutils xvfb
> >> 41 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 188 to remove and 5 not
> >> upgraded.
> >> Need to get 56.6MB of archives. After unpacking 382MB will be freed.
> >> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Abort.
> >> ========================< cut >=========================
> >>
> >> disclaimer: I'm just a user, not a developer. I use Woody cause I
> >> don't have the time or the knowledge ro wrangle with unstable.
> >>
> >> PS: I could post the apt-get output if anyone thought it would be
> >> useful.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Nick Boyce
> >> Bristol, UK
> >> --
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