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Re: apt-* (dist-)upgrade 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 Woody Debs Very Alarming



Hi,
i upograded from kde 3.1.4 to 3.2.2 last nite using synaptic on
woody..............it went like a dream with not a single
problem!.................
i would strongly recommend you to use synaptic instead of apt-get as it is
much better at handling dependencies etc..........
abhishek.





> I just did a 3.1.3 upgrade to 3.2.3 (sic) and the only thing that failed
> was postgresql, but I played a lot.  However, the following packages
> were kept back.
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages have been kept back
>   cervisia debconf kappfinder kate kbabel kbugbuster kcalc kcontrol
> kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data
> kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdeprint kdesdk kdesdk-kfile-plugins kdesdk-misc
> kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmail kmenuedit kompare
> konqueror  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver
> ksnapshot ksplash kspy ksysguard ksysguardd ktip kwin libarts1
> libarts1-dev libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libpaperg libqt3-headers
> libqt3-mt-dev poxml qt3-dev-tools xbase-clients xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa3
> xlibs xlibs-dev0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and
> 54  not upgraded.
>
> apt-get install libxcursor1 got me to the next step, as it now depends
> on different packages, however this still wasn't a new enough version
> according to apt-get.
> "ksplash: Depends: libxcursor1 (> 1.1.2) but 1.0.2-1woody2 is to be
> installed"
> This would stop the meek and timid from using apt-get, although it
> SHOULD work that easy, but remember this is not standard Debian tree
> stuff.  I suggest that we get that dependency taken care of before you
> try it. Andreas?
>
> However, I notice you using backports, so it might be different, but I
> see no libxcursor there so I expect the same results for you.
>
>> I'd like to try out the upgrade path from KDE 3.1.4 to KDE 3.2.2 using
>> the Woody debs that someone (Andreas Mueller ?) has posted at
>> download.kde.org.
>>
>> My system is running vanilla Woody, apart from XFree86 which I
>> upgraded from Woody's 4.1.0 to backports.org's 4.2.1 some while back.
>> I'm currently running the Ralf Nolden download.k.o KDE 3.1.4 debs.
>>
>> If I use "apt-get -s (dist-)upgrade" to see what the upgrade proposes,
>> I get totally scary output for both cases.
>>
>> Since people keep telling us that apt-get is braindead, and that
>> aptitude does a better job, I tried that too, with similarly scary
>> results.  Since aptitude's output is more compact, I include it here.
>>
>> As you can see, a plain "upgrade" will only upgrade my XFree86, plus
>> some random _parts_ of KDE (the rest would be _removed_).
>>
>> On the other hand, a "dist-upgrade" would do much the same *and* would
>> _remove_ huge unrelated, and in some cases *vital* parts of my system
>> ... such as MySQL, Samba, PPP, Freeswan, man-db, fetchmail, htdig,
>> ssh, gcc, etc., etc.
>>
>> Anyone got any clue as to whether this is tractable, or is something
>> badly broken to the point of uselessness here ?
>>
>> ========================< cut >=========================
>> # aptitude -s upgrade
>> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
>> Package Lists... Done
>> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
>> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
>> Dependency Tree... 86%Building Dependency Tree... Done
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>  ark arts artsbuilder debconf kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder
>> kasteroids kate kaudiocreator kbackgammon kcontrol kdeartwork-style
>> kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-bin
>> kdelibs-data kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
>>  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdeprint
>>  kdesktop
>>  kdf kdm kfind kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager khelpcenter kicker
>> klipper
>>  kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid kmix knode knotes konqueror
>>  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete kpackage kpager kpersonalizer kppp
>> krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd
>> ksysv
>>  ktip kwin libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
>> libarts1-xine libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4 libnspr4 libnss3
>> libpaperg libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev mozilla-browser mozilla-psm
>> mpeglib noatun qt3-dev-tools quanta snmp x-window-system-core
>>  xbase-clients xlibmesa-gl-dev xlibmesa-glu-dev xlibmesa3 xlibs
>>  xlibs-dev
>>  xterm
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>  imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs4-doc
>> lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1 libfreetype6
>>  libfreetype6-dev
>>  libmimelib1 libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2
>>  libxslt1
>>  proxymngr twm x-window-system xdm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
>>  xfonts-base
>>  xfonts-konsole xfonts-scalable xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev
>> xnest
>>  xprt xserver-common xserver-xfree86 xspecs xutils xvfb
>> 38 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 91 not
>> upgraded.
>> Need to get 54.4MB of archives. After unpacking 43.2MB will be used.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Abort.
>>
>> # aptitude -s dist-upgrade
>> Reading Package Lists... 0%Reading Package Lists... 100%Reading
>> Package Lists... Done
>> Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building Dependency Tree... 0%Building
>> Dependency Tree... 50%Building Dependency Tree... 50%Building
>> Dependency Tree... 84%Building Dependency Tree... Done
>> The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
>>  libsnmp5 libxrender1 xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu
>> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED:
>>  abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins adduser ark arts
>> artsbuilder base-config bonobo bsdmainutils console-common
>>  console-data
>>  console-tools cvs diald dpkg-dev efax enscript fetchmail
>>  fetchmail-common
>>  freeswan gcc-3.0 gdm gnome-applets gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
>> gnome-session gnome-utils gs gs-common guarddog gv htdig ipchains
>> ipmenu
>>  iptables kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder karbon kasteroids
>> kate
>>
>>  kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbear kcd kchart kcontrol kde-theme-liquid
>> kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins
>> kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
>>  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs
>> kdeprint kdesktop kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdm kernel-package
>> kernel-source-2.4.18 kfind kformula kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager
>> khelpcenter kicker kit kivio klipper kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid
>> kmidi
>>  kmix kmyfirewall knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror
>>  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontour kopete koshell kpackage kpager
>> kpersonalizer kppp kpresenter krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver
>> ksplash kspread ksysguard ksysv ktip kugar kwin kword kxconfig
>>  leafnode
>>  less lftp libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
>> libarts1-xine libglide3 libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data
>>  libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4
>> libpaperg libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev localeconf locales magicfilter
>> man-db
>>  mirrormagic modconf mozilla-browser mozilla-psm mpeglib
>>  msttcorefonts
>>  mysql-server nas-dev nas-lib netbase noatun ntpdate pidentd poster
>> ppp
>>
>>  pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf psfontmgr psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta
>> samba
>>
>>  samba-common smbclient smbfs ssh swat telnetd whiptail wvdial
>>  x-ttcidfont-conf x-window-system x-window-system-core xaw3dg xdm
>> xlibmesa3-gl xlibmesa3-glu xlibs-pic xnest xpdf xpdf-reader
>>  xpdf-utils
>>  xprt xprt-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>  debconf xbase-clients xlibs xlibs-dev xterm
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>  libsnmp5 libxrender1 xlibmesa-gl xlibmesa-glu
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>  abiword abiword-common abiword-gtk abiword-plugins adduser ark arts
>> artsbuilder base-config bonobo bsdmainutils console-common
>>  console-data
>>  console-tools cvs diald dpkg-dev efax enscript fetchmail
>>  fetchmail-common
>>  freeswan gcc-3.0 gdm gnome-applets gnome-panel gnome-panel-data
>> gnome-session gnome-utils gs gs-common guarddog gv htdig ipchains
>> ipmenu
>>  iptables kaboodle kaddressbook kandy kappfinder karbon kasteroids
>> kate
>>
>>  kaudiocreator kbackgammon kbear kcd kchart kcontrol kde-theme-liquid
>> kdeartwork-style kdebase kdebase-bin kdebase-dev kdebase-kio-plugins
>> kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdelibs4-dev kdemultimedia
>>  kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepim-libs
>> kdeprint kdesktop kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdm kernel-package
>> kernel-source-2.4.18 kfind kformula kgamma kget kgpg kgpgcertmanager
>> khelpcenter kicker kit kivio klipper kmahjongg kmail kmenuedit kmid
>> kmidi
>>  kmix kmyfirewall knode knotes koffice koffice-libs konqueror
>>  konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontour kopete koshell kpackage kpager
>> kpersonalizer kppp kpresenter krec ksame kscd kscreensaver ksmserver
>> ksplash kspread ksysguard ksysv ktip kugar kwin kword kxconfig
>>  leafnode
>>  less lftp libarts1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib
>> libarts1-xine libglide3 libgnomeprint-bin libgnomeprint-data
>>  libgnomeprint15 libgtkhtml20 libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkonq4
>> libpaperg libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev localeconf locales magicfilter
>> man-db
>>  mirrormagic modconf mozilla-browser mozilla-psm mpeglib
>>  msttcorefonts
>>  mysql-server nas-dev nas-lib netbase noatun ntpdate pidentd poster
>> ppp
>>
>>  pppconfig pppoe pppoeconf psfontmgr psutils qt3-dev-tools quanta
>> samba
>>
>>  samba-common smbclient smbfs ssh swat telnetd whiptail wvdial
>>  x-ttcidfont-conf x-window-system x-window-system-core xaw3dg xdm
>> xlibmesa3-gl xlibmesa3-glu xlibs-pic xnest xpdf xpdf-reader
>>  xpdf-utils
>>  xprt xprt-common xserver-common xserver-xfree86
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>  imlib-base kde-i18n-engb kdeartwork-misc kdebase-data kdelibs-data
>> kdelibs4-doc ksysguardd lbxproxy libartsc0 libartsc0-dev libdps1
>> libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev libmimelib1 libnspr4 libnss3
>>  libqt3-headers
>>  libsnmp-base libusb-0.1-4 libxaw6 libxaw7 libxml2 libxslt1 proxymngr
>> snmp
>>  twm xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-konsole
>>  xfonts-scalable
>>  xfree86-common xfs xfwp xlibmesa-dev xlibmesa-gl-dev
>>  xlibmesa-glu-dev
>>  xlibmesa3 xspecs xutils xvfb
>> 41 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 188 to remove and 5 not
>> upgraded.
>> Need to get 56.6MB of archives. After unpacking 382MB will be freed.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/e/d/v/action/?] Abort.
>> ========================< cut >=========================
>>
>> disclaimer: I'm just a user, not a developer.  I use Woody cause I
>> don't have the time or the knowledge ro wrangle with unstable.
>>
>> PS: I could post the apt-get output if anyone thought it would be
>> useful.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nick Boyce
>> Bristol, UK
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