Re: KDE debs building
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On Sunday 15 September 2002 6:53 pm, Tamas Nagy wrote:
> Glad to hear the initiative. First of all, credit to all packagers, it
> was a good work...
>
> IMHO, the current practice (everybody creates own packaging for KDE)
> needs to be changed. The debian directories in CVS used to be outdated,
> and this leads to duplicated (and wasted) packaging efforts. KDE package
> building should be repeatable from the CVS by anyone.
>
and they are for 3.0.x, see below for info.
> However there are some site, including mine
> (http://mypage.bluewin.ch/kde3-debian, for gathering all the (often
> incompatible) packages and sources ), the best would be to have a single
> repository for all the KDE Debian packages at ftp.kde.org.
>
The problem is that several people are maintainers for several packages. Chris
Cheney is maintainer for kdelibs, kdebase and others, while Ben Burton is
maintainer for kdeartwork, kdeaddons, koffice and a few others. Someone else
is maintainer for kdevelop.
> Finally, individual heroes, please try to use the KDE CVS (more
> frequently) and let everybody will benefit from your work.
>
AFAIK, most people do use CVS and try to keep HEAD up to date. The problem
there is that HEAD is a moving target. KDE developers add files, move files
and remove files which means that the file lists in CVS are not up to date.
Several people, including myself, build KDE HEAD as and when we can and
update CVS so they are buildable, but we can't do all of the modules all of
the time, so they won't always be buildable. BRANCH has pretty much been up
to date since before 3.0.0 so people could build packages from CVS for the
3.0.x series. IMHO, the situation with KDE is significantly better than for
most other Debian packages which do not have debian dirs available for
development versions.
> Tamas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralf Nolden [mailto:nolden@kde.org]
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 5:36 PM
> To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
> Subject: KDE debs building
>
>
> Hi,
>
> as some of you got to know until now, I switched from SuSE to Debian
> this week
> - and directly hit the fact that building debs from CVS would work
> best for
> me to have it working the right way (tm). Now, I got into working with
> Chris
> lately and we try to fix the issues one by one soon now so that everyone
> can
> build debs himself but more important, provide debs for KDE constantly
> that
> work, where also most importantly betas, RC's and finals are provided by
> the
> day that the packages are build and work optimal on Debian.
>
> The other thing is that third party apps need to be compiled if you like
> to
> use them. Until now several people do that for the apps they like to run
> or
> that they are developing using debian as their development platform. The
>
> problem for the users is that the deb lines for sources.list are spread
> all
> over and there is no central way of getting the newest apps through debs
> for
> people that are not necessarily developers like we are. The other thing
> is
> that as developers, just doing a make install would work but that
> usually
> messes up our systems, especially as KDE has /usr as its prefix on
> debian. So
> it would be the best if we could somehow collect our resources and
> schedule
> building debs and providing them in a central place.
>
> I talked with Dirk Müller already and some other guys that I use to work
> with
> at KDE and we should provide that possibility through KDE on
> ftp.kde.org.
> Wether that will work out just depends on how many people would
> volunteer to
> participate.
>
> If you're interested, let's come together to finally end this messy
> system
> where there's certain problems with building debs for us and the KDE
> users
> using debian, it would surely make things a *lot* easier if we organize
> ourselves and coordinate doing things efficiently.
>
> Thanks for your attention and for volunteering :-)
>
> Ralf
> --
> We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs.
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> nolden@kde.org
>
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