ok...in thinking more about the request for removing the bits I took a look at what bits those were...and then broke out 2 new packages out of the kdelibs source... libkdb-postgres and libkdb-mysql. so with the alpha1 release these will exist. Ivan -- ---------------- Ivan E. Moore II rkrusty@tdyc.com http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD