...of the KDE league. Or at least a board member. According to the press release (http://dot.kde.org/974298831/) there will be seats on the board for core developers and I think Ivan qualifies as the provider of KDE to a major Linux distribution. The key benefit of this is in my opinion is preventing our favorite desktop from making silly mistakes in the future (like the whole licensing debacle.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <jaldhar@debian.org>