jcip vs CC-BY-2.5
Hi all,
I have been trying to get information on the status of jcip code
source vs CC-BY-2.5. According to upstream this issue has been solved
in the past (by Torsten). Torsten if you are reading this ?
Anyway if anyone knows anything on the subject please contact me
privately. I am trying to get netcdf-java into debian/main.
Thanks much.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Brian Goetz <brian@briangoetz.com> wrote:
> When last we went around on this with Debian (Aug 08), it was considered
> acceptable for the authors (myself and Tim Peierls) to indicate that we were
> willing to license the code under these terms. This was sent to Torsten
> Werner, who should have these on file. Can you check with him?
>
> Given the volume of license-related requests we receive, this was as much as
> we were willing to do; changing the source would be too much.
>
>
> On 4/12/2012 2:59 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> No debian point of view has not changed ! CC version 3.0 is awsome !
>> It is perfect for our approach.
>>
>> However the file I was referring to was clearly licensed with a 2.5
>> version. Taking the source from the original jar file at:
>>
>> http://www.jcip.net/jcip-annotations-src.jar
>>
>> or from:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Unidata/thredds/blob/master/cdm/src/main/java/net/jcip/annotations/GuardedBy.java
>>
>> If one of you could please send me the link with the newly updated 3.0
>> license file, that would be terrific.
>>
>> As a side note, I am also a technical person, and really the whole
>> licensing issue is a mess. But in the end what really count is what is
>> written on those lines...so someone has to do it.
>>
>> Anyway thanks for your help& time,
>>
>>
>> -M
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:05 PM, John Caron<caron@unidata.ucar.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mathieu:
>>>
>>> A reply from Brian Goetz is below.
>>>
>>> It sounds like Brian agrees that we can change the license to something
>>> debian is ok with? Or is it already that?
>>>
>>> FWIW, in the next version of netcdf-java we are using maven for the
>>> build, which pulls in the net.jcip code
>>> from maven central, instead of including it in our source.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> PS: I have to agree with Brian, I think you have too many lawyers. If CC
>>> isnt open-source, seems crazy.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: [netcdf-java] Creative Commons Attribution License 2.5
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 16:27:48 -0400
>>> From: Brian Goetz<brian@briangoetz.com>
>>> To: John Caron<caron@unidata.ucar.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have to say, the amount of grief I've gotten over license choices (not
>>> just CC, but seemingly any license one picks) is enough to make one want
>>> to stop writing free software! No matter what license one picks,
>>> someone, somewhere complains that the license is "not
>>> open/pure/permissive" enough.
>>>
>>> For what its worth, this is the second time Debian has reached out; the
>>> last time, they said:
>>>
>>>> Both Attribution 3.0 and Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 would be good for
>>>> Debian. Do you allow us to redistribute your code with one of those
>>>> licenses?
>>>
>>>
>>> I acquiesced to this request in Aug 2008.
>>>
>>> Is this license choice no longer acceptable to Debian?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/11/2012 3:55 PM, John Caron wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi brian: Not sure if you've seen this issue or if you are inclined to
>>>> modify your license....
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: [netcdf-java] Creative Commons Attribution License 2.5
>>>> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 21:30:57 +0200
>>>> From: Mathieu Malaterre<mathieu.malaterre@gmail.com>
>>>> To: netcdf-java@unidata.ucar.edu
>>>> CC: Debian Med Project List<debian-med@lists.debian.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I am getting very (very!) close to having netcdf-java in debian. One
>>>> remaining issue is with the following file:
>>>> cdm/src/main/java/net/jcip/annotations/GuardedBy.java
>>>>
>>>> This file is distributed with a Creative Commons Attribution License
>>>> version 2.5 license. However this license is not accepted in debian
>>>> (main) because it is not compatible with DFSG [1]. It has been
>>>> discussed in greater details here [2]. For more information on the
>>>> status of CC-BY(-SA) 2.5 and previous one can see [3] or [4].
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Now there are two ways to go:
>>>> 1. remove this file and possibly replace with something else ?
>>>> 2. ask the copyright holder to relicensed his/her work under a
>>>> CC-BY(-SA) 3.0 license.
>>>>
>>>> What is the position of the netcdf-java team on this issue ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your time,
>>>>
>>>> [1]http://www.debian.org/social_contract
>>>>
>>>> [2]http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/debian-med-packaging/2012-April/014918.html
>>>> [3]http://evan.prodromou.name/ccsummary/ccsummary.html
>>>>
>>>> [4]http://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Creative_Commons_Attribution-Share_Alike_Generic_.28CC-BY-SA.29.2C_v2.5
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mathieu
>>>>
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