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Re: j2se1.3 now in /Incoming



On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:15:13PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote:
> 
> Hi.  I checked out the j2se1.3 packages and they look great;
> good work on finally getting them in debian proper. :)
> 
> I do have one question, and you're going to hate me for it but I'm going
> to ask it anyway.
> 
> What are we doing about the java2 dependency issue?  There was a long
> thread about this recently and (I believe) general consensus was that
> there should be:
> 
> Provides: java2-virtual-machine (or java2-runtime?)
> Provides: java2-compiler

Well. I have to ask one thing (before adding such things to the
policy). Have the virtual machine changed (in any strange way) or
is it just the runtime environment that really have changed. I skip
all performance parts and just focus on compatibility.

Regards,

// Ola

> The j2se1.3 packages however have (I believe):
> 
> Provides: j2re
> Provides: j2sdk
> 
> Your argument against java2-virtual-machine and java2-compiler was that
> there was no other java2 environment in debian in the short-term future.
> But this is not an argument that says java2-* is bad; it's simply an
> argument that says one proposal is not immediately more useful than the
> other.
> 
> Both methods use virtual packages that can't be versioned.  Both methods
> allow java2 apps to have a single depends that will catch any java2
> JVM/compiler.
> 
> However, the java2-* method has the advantage that it reflects the
> general consensus of the discussion that was raised.  What's wrong with
> using the java2-* virtual packages?
> 
> Not to bitch straight after the upload :) - but I'm just bringing this up
> now before we start getting java2 apps/libraries uploaded that will need
> appropriate Depends: lines.
> 
> Ben. :)
> 
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