Well, all you guys forgot one thing.. The Art!!! All we want to do is to create The Ultimate Code, the one we cry when we see. And as all true artists we are shunned by the people, those cretins who dont see the light. (Wonder if it's time for cutting of one ear now??) :-) Then of course, it's also the pure joy of revelling in the sea of knowledge, and oppress the poor lusers and management.. :-) /Roger A